在2018.1上怎么关闭WebPACK for WebPACK独立工具的Webtalk？

你好@eml，
Vivado通常会产生这样的信息：“使用没有完整Vivado许可证的WebPACK部分时，必须使用WebTalk数据。要查看为您的设计收集的特定WebTalk数据，请打开usage_statistics_webtalk.html或usage_statistics_webtalk.xml文件。
实施目录。“
因此，如果您的目标是WebPACK设备并且实际上没有完整许可证，则无论您的情况如何，都会为Vivado WebPACK工具打开数据传输，因为这些设置将被忽略（请参阅
下表）。
由于这是一个免费软件，因此它在这种环境中的工作方式，因为它是营销设定的条款和条件的一部分。
“如果禁用WebTalk，则不会发送任何数据，除非使用WebPACK许可证生成一点
流”。
以下是与WebTalk相关的一些信息，可在此处找到：
https://www.xilinx.com/products/design-tools/webtalk.html
本页的其中一点是这一点：
WebTalk是否始终为WebPACK许可证启用？
是。
WebTalk根据用于比特流生成的许可证决定数据传输，并且始终为免费的ISE和Vivado WebPACK工具打开数据传输。
但请注意，WebTalk不会干扰或阻止未连接到互联网的计算机上的设计编译。
另外，请检查第5点：
这是Webtalk的“真值表”，可以：
设计流程
ISE / Vivado设计套件许可
WebTalk安装首选项
WebTalk用户首选项
WebTalk数据传输到Xilinx
比特流
的WebPack
忽视
忽视
是的（发送）
任何版本
启用
启用
是的（发送）
启用
残
不（不发送）
残
忽视
不（不发送）
希望这可以帮助。
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Hello @eml,
 
Vivado normally produces an INFO with something like this:"WebTalk data collection is mandatory when using a WebPACK part without a full Vivado license. To see the specific WebTalk data collected for your design, open the usage_statistics_webtalk.html or usage_statistics_webtalk.xml file in the implementation directory."
 
So, if you are targeting a WebPACK device and don’t actually have a full license, the data transmission is always turned on for the Vivado WebPACK tools, no matter what setting you have in your case, as these would be ignored (see the table below). As this is a free software, that is how it works in this environment, as it is a part of terms and conditions that are set by marketing.
“No data is sent if you disable WebTalk, except for the use of the WebPACK license to generate a bit
stream”.
 
 
Here is some info in relation to WebTalk that can be found here:
https://www.xilinx.com/products/design-tools/webtalk.html
 
One of the points on this page is this one:
Is WebTalk always enabled for WebPACK license?
Yes. WebTalk makes decisions on data transmission based on the license used for bitstream generation, and data transmission is always turned on for the free ISE and Vivado WebPACK tools. However, please note that WebTalk will not interfere with or prevent design compilation on a machine that is not connected to the internet.
 
Also, please check point #5:

 
Here is a “truth table” of Webtalk enabling:
 

Design Flow	ISE/Vivado Design Suite License	WebTalk Install Preference	WebTalk User Preference	WebTalk data transmission to Xilinx
Bitstream	WebPack	Ignored	Ignored	Yes (Send)
	Any Edition	Enabled	Enabled	Yes (Send)
		Enabled	Disabled	No (Do not send)
		Disabled	Ignored	No (Do not send)

  
Hope this helps.
Kind Regards,
Anatoli Curran,
Xilinx Technical Support
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嗨阿纳托利 - 这实际上是我链接到的页面。
请注意，运行独立的sim工具不是“比特流”。
我引用的部分说明“如果禁用WebTalk，则不会发送数据，除了使用WebPACK许可证生成比特流”，这意味着如果您不生成比特流，可以禁用WebTalk *。
有旧线程也给人留下这样的印象。
那么，我们能否就这是否可行做出明确的陈述？
谢谢。



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Hi Anatoli - that's actually the page that I linked to. Note that running the stand-alone sim tools isn't a "bitstream flow". The section I quoted states "No data is sent if you disable WebTalk, except for the use of the WebPACK license to generate a bitstream", which implies to me that WebTalk *can* be disabled if you're not generating a bitstream. There are old threads which also give this impression.
 
So, can we have a definitive statement on whether this is possible? Thanks.
 
 

你好@ EML，
对于任何其他Vivado流程（除了比特流生成或路由设计流程），您可以使用WebTalk安装首选项或WebTalkUser首选项（参见UG973的第4章：'WebTalk'：https：//www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/）
关于如何设置或取消设置这些内容的sw_manuals / xilinx2018_1 / ug973-vivado-release-notes-install-license.pdf）以及不会发送webtalk数据的方式。
在Vivado工具中，如果打开GUI，那么可以通过以下方式选择/取消选择/不选择工具 - >设置。
有关详细信息，请参阅UG973（v2018.1）。
希望这可以帮助。
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Hello @eml,
 
For any other Vivado flow (apart from Bitstream Generation or Route Design Flow), then you can disable the WebTalk Install Preference or the WebTalk User Preference (see Chapter4: 'WebTalk' of UG973: https://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/sw_manuals/xilinx2018_1/ug973-vivado-release-notes-install-license.pdf on how to set or unset these) and that way the webtalk data won't get sent out.
 
In Vivado tool, if you open the GUI, then Tools->Settings, in here WebTalk can be selected/unselected that way:
 

 
For more info, please see UG973 (v2018.1).
 
Hope this helps.
Kind Regards,
Anatoli Curran,
Xilinx Technical Support
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嗨@ anatoli  - 谢谢 - 想想我已经到底了。
你如何处理Webtalk有一个错误，这取决于工具是否必须创建'xsim.dir'。
1  - 删除xsim.dir，确认Webtalk已关闭，编译，详细说明：
> rm -rf xsim.dir
> vivado -mode tcl
％config_webtalk -info
信息：webtalk关闭，亚达
％ 放弃
> xvlog test.v.
> xelab work.top
...阐述，运行webtalk
2  - 完全相同，但不删除现有的xsim.dir：
> vivado -mode tcl
％config_webtalk -info
信息：webtalk关闭，亚达
％ 放弃
> xvlog test.v.
> xelab work.top
...阐述，不*运行webtalk
我的单元测试环境在每次测试之前删除xsim.dir（或任何工作目录），因此每个测试运行webtalk。
似乎我不允许报告错误（参见其他主题） - 也许你可以做必要的事情？
谢谢。



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Hi @anatoli - thanks - think I've got to the bottom of this. There's a bug in how you handle Webtalk, depending on whether on not the tools have to create 'xsim.dir'.
 
1 - remove xsim.dir, confirm Webtalk is off, compile, elaborate:
 
> rm -rf xsim.dir
> vivado -mode tcl
% config_webtalk -info
INFO: webtalk is off, yada
% quit
> xvlog test.v
> xelab work.top
...elaborates, runs webtalk
 
2 - do exactly the same, but don't remove an existing xsim.dir:
 
> vivado -mode tcl
% config_webtalk -info
INFO: webtalk is off, yada
% quit
> xvlog test.v
> xelab work.top
...elaborates, does *not* run webtalk
 
My unit test environment deletes xsim.dir (or whatever the work directory is) before each test, so webtalk runs for each one.
 
Seems like I'm not allowed to report bugs (see other thread) - perhaps you could do the necessary? Thanks.
 

你好@ EML，
请注意，这不是一个错误，而是一个如何创建webtalk的实际过程。
请注意，如果您没有有效许可证且仅使用Vivado WebPACK许可证，则WebTalk仍将运行并生成必要的数据收集文件（即位于项目目录中的usage_statistics_webtalk.xml文件）。它仅生成并存储数据
theusage_statistics_webtalk.xml文件。
在您开始比特流生成流程之前，它不会将此信息发送给Xilinx。
如果您不打算生成比特流，那么此usage_statistics_webtalk.xml文件将不会发送给Xilinx。
但是，请注意，无论您打开还是关闭WebTalk数据传输，都需要收集数据。
如果您已经拥有xsim.dir，那意味着您已经运行了模拟并且已经收集了数据。
在此目录中，您应该找到在其中创建的“usage_statistics_webtalk.xml”文件。
如果要删除xsim.dir，这意味着您必须重新运行所有内容，并且由于这个原因，WebTalkneed将再次运行以收集必要的数据并再次创建“usage_statistics_webtalk.xml”文件。
这是一种预期的行为。
我希望以上是清楚的。
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Hello @eml,
 
Please note this is not a bug but an actual process of how webtalk is getting created.
Please be aware that if you have no valid licenses and only using Vivado WebPACK license, then WebTalk will still run and generate the necessary data collection file (i.e. usage_statistics_webtalk.xml file located in the project directory). It only generates and stores the data in the usage_statistics_webtalk.xml file. It won't send this info out to Xilinx until you start bitstream generation flow.
If you are not planning in generation of the bitstream, then this usage_statistics_webtalk.xml file won't get sent out to Xilinx.
However, please be aware that WebTalk needs to collect the data no matter if you have the WebTalk data transmission turned on or off.
 
If you already have xsim.dir, that mean you have already run the simulation and the data has been collected. Within this directory you should find "usage_statistics_webtalk.xml" file created in there.
If you are removing xsim.dir that means you'd have to rerun everything and due to this, WebTalk need to be run once again to collect the necessary data and to create "usage_statistics_webtalk.xml" file once again.
That is an expected behavior. 
 
I hope the above is clear.
Kind Regards,
Anatoli Curran,
Xilinx Technical Support
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你好@ EML，
感谢您与我们分享此信息。
让我仔细检查一下WebTalk开发团队。
一旦我收到他们的回复，我会更新你的。
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Hello @eml,
 
Thanks for sharing this info with us.
 
Let me double check with the WebTalk development team on this matter.
I will update you once i hear back from them.
 
Kind Regards,
Anatoli Curran,
Xilinx Technical Support
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