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NUC8i7HVK是否能够从Thunderbolt 3 JBOD启动Linux?

我正在考虑获得NUC8i7HVK。
有一些必须的功能..
NUC8i7HVK是否能够从Thunderbolt 3 JBOD启动Linux?
Linux上的VEGA M问题是否已解决?
我在运行密集的OpenCL或OpenGL应用程序时读到GPU会升温并降低功耗。
我使用最新的4.18.3内核,amdgpu固件(包括vegam支持)修改了我的MacPro 2013 Black Can桌面上运行的Ubuntu 18.04(Bionic Beaver)
最新的Mesa 18.3.0-devel,OpenGL 4.4。
我计划出售我的MacPro。
当Apple开始愚弄操作系统时,我从MacOS迁移了。
当你比较
NUC8i7HVK的性能规格对于MacPro 6,1 ..哈迪斯峡谷看起来并不太破旧。
总的来说,我希望我的多核代码有点慢,但是
GPU可以平衡一切,但我的Thunderbolt 3将不再需要Thunderbolt适配器并全速运行,VegaM图形将比
AMD / Apple D700。
我认为它会平衡,可能NUC8i7HVK会稍快一些。
我一直在关注Debian / Ubuntu论坛
似乎完整的功能越来越近了。
有没有人在论坛上试过这个呢?
消息编辑:Al Hill - 删除了不适当的语言。

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I am thinking about getting a NUC8i7HVK.    There are a few capabilities that are a must..

Is a NUC8i7HVK capable of booting linux from a Thunderbolt 3 JBOD ?
Is the VEGA M issues on Linux resolved ?    I read when running intensive OpenCL or OpenGL apps the GPU will heat up and throttle down.
I modified my Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) that runs off my MacPro 2013 Black Can desktop with the latest 4.18.3 kernel,  amdgpu firmware (included vegam support)
latest Mesa 18.3.0-devel, OpenGL 4.4.   I plan on selling my MacPro.  I migrated off MacOS when Apple started to dumb the Operating System down.   When you compare
the performance specs of the NUC8i7HVK to the MacPro 6,1 .. the Hades Canyon does not look too shabby. Overall I expect my multi core code to be a little slower but the
GPU may balance everything out, but my Thunderbolt 3 will no longer need the Thunderbolt adapter on it and run at full speed, The VegaM graphics will be faster than the
AMD/Apple    D700. I think it's will balance out and possibly the NUC8i7HVK will be slightly faster.


I've been following the Debian/Ubuntu forums. It appears full functionality is getting close.   Have any of you on the Forums tried this yet ?

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汤宇

2018-11-28 15:22:27
您好jerryn,感谢您加入此英特尔社区。我们了解您想知道英特尔®NUC套件NUC8i7HVK是否能够从Thunderbolt 3 JBOD启动。
我想为您提供帮助。首先,我们想知道您指的是哪个Radeon™RX Vega M GH图形问题,以及您是否打算在英特尔®NUC上安装Ubuntu 18.04,4.18.3内核。
我这样,我们可以尽快解决您的询问.Wanner G.

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Hello jerryn

Thank you for joining this Intel Community.

I understand that you would like to know if Intel® NUC Kit NUC8i7HVK is capable of booting from a Thunderbolt 3 JBOD. I would like to assist you with this. 

First, we would like to know which Radeon™ RX Vega M GH graphics issues you are referring to and if you plan on installing Ubuntu 18.04, 4.18.3 kernel, on the Intel® NUC. I this way, we can address your inquiry as soon as possible. 

Wanner G. 
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李玉鑫

2018-11-28 15:37:15
引用: jerry1978 发表于 2018-11-28 12:44
您好jerryn,感谢您加入此英特尔社区。我们了解您想知道英特尔®NUC套件NUC8i7HVK是否能够从Thunderbolt 3 JBOD启动。
我想为您提供帮助。首先,我们想知道您指的是哪个Radeon™RX Vega M GH图形问题,以及您是否打算在英特尔®NUC上安装Ubuntu 18.04,4.18.3内核。
我这样,我们可以尽快解决您的询问.Wanner G.

Linux和Windows上的Radeon™RX Vega M GH图形问题在以2K和4K分辨率运行时运行炙手可热。
我在我的MacPro 2013垃圾桶上运行Ubuntu Bionic Beaver(18.04)。
我正在使用amdgpu内核驱动程序。
更新的驱动程序最终正确检测到D700。
它是Tahiti芯片组,但每张卡有6GB Video Ram。
我更新到内核4.18.3-041803-generic,从Github获取最新的linux-firmware,构建了一个包含VegaM固件的更新的initrd。
如果NUC817HVK可以从thunderbolt启动,我应该可以从我的mac上卸载我的JBOD并启动Ubuntu 18.04
你测试过Linux下的wifi,NICS,音频和所有端口吗?
还有什么芯片组用于Thunderbolt 3接口?
是Alpine Ridge吗?
如果是Alpine Ridge,可以制作高性能的Hacintosh iMac。
它能够与GPU连接吗?
我在Akito霹雳3盒子里有一个Nvidia GTX970。
我还驾驶一台27英寸2k显示器和一台苹果电脑LCD面板显示器,我用12英寸Ipad显示器面板和迷你dv接口构建,我从ADA水果中取出,安装在深黑色相框中..挂在
墙。
i7-8809G能否与以下产品兼容:
jerryn @ bart-linux:/ proc $ lscpu
架构:x86_64
CPU操作模式:32位,64位
字节顺序:Little Endian
CPU:12
在线CPU列表:0-11
每个核心的线程:2
每个插座的核心:6
套接字:1
NUMA节点:1
供应商ID:GenuineIntel
CPU系列:6
型号:62
型号名称:Intel(R)Xeon(R)CPU E5-1650 v2 @ 3.50GHz
步进:4
CPU MHz:1200.060
CPU max MHz:3900.0000
CPU min MHz:1200.0000
BogoMIPS:6999.63
虚拟化:VT-x
L1d缓存:32K
L1i缓存:32K
L2缓存:256K
L3缓存:12288K
NUMA node0 CPU:0-11
标志:fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl
vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cpuid_fault epb pti ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsg***ase smep erms xsaveopt dtherm ida arat pln pts
你能启动Ubuntu 18.04并从lscpu发给我报告吗?
和glxinfo?
我对感兴趣的扩展渲染器信息部分感兴趣:
扩展渲染器信息(GLX_MESA_query_renderer): 
供应商:X.Org(0x1002) 
设备:AMD TAHITI(DRM 2.50.0,4.18.3-041803-generic,LLVM 6.0.1)(0x6798) 
版本:18.3.0 
加速:是的 
视频内存:6144MB 
统一记忆:没有 
首选资料:核心(0x1) 
最大核心配置文件版本:4.5 
Max compat配置文件版本:4.4 
Max GLES1配置文件版本:1.1 
Max GLES [23]简介版本:3.2
内存信息(GL_ATI_meminfo): 
VBO空闲内存 - 总计:157 MB,最大块:157 MB 
VBO免费辅助。
内存 - 总计:1371 MB,最大块:1371 MB 
纹理空闲内存 - 总计:157 MB,最大块:157 MB 
纹理免费辅助。
内存 - 总计:1371 MB,最大块:1371 MB 
Renderbuffer可用内存 - 总计:157 MB,最大块:157 MB 
Renderbuffer free aux。
内存 - 总计:1371 MB,最大块:1371 MB
内存信息(GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info): 
专用视频内存:6144 MB 
可用内存总量:8187 MB 
目前可用的专用视频内存:157 MB
OpenGL供应商字符串:X.Org
OpenGL渲染器字符串:AMD TAHITI(DRM 2.50.0,4.18.3-041803-generic,LLVM 6.0.1)
OpenGL核心配置文件版本字符串:4.5(核心配置文件)Mesa 18.3.0-devel
OpenGL核心配置文件着色语言版本字符串:4.50
OpenGL核心配置文件上下文标志:(无)
谢谢。

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Radeon™ RX Vega M GH graphics issues on Linux and Windows is running hot and throttling down when running at 2K and 4K resolutions.
 
I am running Ubuntu Bionic Beaver (18.04) on my MacPro 2013 trash can.    I am using the amdgpu kernel driver.  The updated driver finally detects the D700 properly. It's the Tahiti chipset but has 6GB Video Ram per card.  I updated to kernel 4.18.3-041803-generic , grabbed the latest linux-firmware from Github,  built an updated initrd that includes the VegaM firmware.    If the NUC817HVK can boot from thunderbolt I should be able to detatch my JBOD from my mac and boot Ubuntu 18.04
 
Have you tested the wifi, NICS, audio, and all the ports under Linux ?  Also what chipset is used for the Thunderbolt 3 interface ?  Is it Alpine Ridge ?   If it's Alpine Ridge, it will be possible to make a high performance Hacintosh iMac.
 
Is it capable of interfacing with a GPU ? I have a Nvidia GTX970 in an Akito thunderbolt 3 box.   I also drive a 27" 2k monitor  and a   Apple Computer LCD panel display that I built out of a 12" Ipad display panel and mini dv interface that I picked up from ADA fruit, installed it in a deep black picture frame.. hanging in the wall. 
 
 
 
Will the i7-8809G perform comprably to:
 
jerryn@bart-linux:/proc$ lscpu
Architecture:        x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):      32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:          Little Endian
CPU(s):              12
On-line CPU(s) list: 0-11
Thread(s) per core:  2
Core(s) per socket:  6
Socket(s):           1
NUMA node(s):        1
Vendor ID:           GenuineIntel
CPU family:          6
Model:               62
Model name:          Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1650 v2 @ 3.50GHz
Stepping:            4
CPU MHz:             1200.060
CPU max MHz:         3900.0000
CPU min MHz:         1200.0000
BogoMIPS:            6999.63
Virtualization:      VT-x
L1d cache:           32K
L1i cache:           32K
L2 cache:            256K
L3 cache:            12288K
NUMA node0 CPU(s):   0-11
Flags:               fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cpuid_fault epb pti ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsg***ase smep erms xsaveopt dtherm ida arat pln pts
 
Can you boot up Ubuntu 18.04 and send me the report from lscpu ?
 
And glxinfo ?  I would be interested in the section entitiled Extended renderer info:
Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
    Vendor: X.Org (0x1002)
    Device: AMD TAHITI (DRM 2.50.0, 4.18.3-041803-generic, LLVM 6.0.1) (0x6798)
    Version: 18.3.0
    Accelerated: yes
    Video memory: 6144MB
    Unified memory: no
    Preferred profile: core (0x1)
    Max core profile version: 4.5
    Max compat profile version: 4.4
    Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1
    Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.2
Memory info (GL_ATI_meminfo):
    VBO free memory - total: 157 MB, largest block: 157 MB
    VBO free aux. memory - total: 1371 MB, largest block: 1371 MB
    Texture free memory - total: 157 MB, largest block: 157 MB
    Texture free aux. memory - total: 1371 MB, largest block: 1371 MB
    Renderbuffer free memory - total: 157 MB, largest block: 157 MB
    Renderbuffer free aux. memory - total: 1371 MB, largest block: 1371 MB
Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
    Dedicated video memory: 6144 MB
    Total available memory: 8187 MB
    Currently available dedicated video memory: 157 MB
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: AMD TAHITI (DRM 2.50.0, 4.18.3-041803-generic, LLVM 6.0.1)
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 18.3.0-devel
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.50
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
 
 
Thanks.
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汤宇

2018-11-28 15:56:27
引用: cd340823 发表于 2018-11-28 12:59
Linux和Windows上的Radeon™RX Vega M GH图形问题在以2K和4K分辨率运行时运行炙手可热。
我在我的MacPro 2013垃圾桶上运行Ubuntu Bionic Beaver(18.04)。
我正在使用amdgpu内核驱动程序。

Hellojerryn,为了提供有关这些问题的更多信息,我们将做进一步的研究。
我们会尽快给您回复.Wanner G.

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Hello jerryn, 

In order to provide more information about these issues, we will do further research. We will get back to you soon. 

Wanner G.
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施稚惇

2018-11-28 16:14:00
嗨jerryn, 
我们为Linux *提供有限的支持,遗憾的是我们没有验证NUC上的Linux操作系统既不提供驱动程序,但我们知道它可以工作,驱动程序可以从各种来源获得,你可以使它完全正常运行但是再次验证和支持是有限的。
以下是经过验证的操作系统列表供您参考:支持的英特尔®NUC产品操作系统
此处还提供Linux支持参考:Linux *支持英特尔®NUC 
现在,如果你进入BIOS,请进入Boot> Boot Configuration> Boot Devices。
有两个选项可能有用:Thunderbolt USB Boot和Thunderbolt Boot。
我没有Thunderbolt JBOD进行测试,因此我无法帮助您,但我希望其他社区成员可以为您提供自己的体验。 
问候,
罗尼G.

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Hi jerryn,
 
We provide limited support for Linux*, unfortunately we dont validate Linux operating systems on NUCs neither provide drivers, however we know it works and drivers can be obtained from various sources and you can make it fully functional but again validation and support is limited.
 
Here is the list of validated operating systems for your reference: Supported Operating Systems for Intel® NUC Products
Linux support reference is also available here: Linux* Support for Intel® NUC
 
Now, if you go the BIOS, go under Boot>Boot Configuration>Boot Devices. There are a couple of options that may be useful: Thunderbolt USB Boot and Thunderbolt Boot.
I don’t have a Thunderbolt JBOD for testing so I cant help you with that but I hope some other community member may be able to provide you with their own experience.
 
Regards,
Ronny G
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