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这可能是一个重复的问题,但我找不到这个问题的满意答案。 所以我在这里再次发布它。 当您从FPGA的时钟源开始对ADC进行采样时,我们可以从I / O线中获得多少抖动。 这对于我将要进行的测量的谐波平衡非常关键,因此非常感谢任何帮助。 在我计划使用的电路中,ADC芯片选择的下降沿异步启动ADC的采样,如果我从Spartan 3A FPGA驱动该CS信号,则采样中的抖动是多少。 或者,其中一位工程师建议我在极低的抖动时钟上使用外部D-FF IC运行,并将D输入连接到FPGA CS引脚,我已经附加了一个声明采用这种方法产生20 ps抖动的应用笔记。 我不确定它与FPGA驱动的解决方案有多么不同。 是否有额外的时钟或任何其他形式的抖动在FPGA中产生,这使得外部D-FF解决方案更好? “http://cds.linear.com/docs/Datasheet/2355f.pdf第13页,最小化转换输入上的抖动。” 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hello, This probably is a repeat question, but I could not find a satisfactory answer to this problem. So here I am posting it again. When you start sampling an ADC from a clock source from FPGA, exactly how much jitter can we expect from the I/O lines. This is very critical for HARMonic Balance of the measurements I am going to make, so any help would be greatly appreciated. In the circuit that I am planning to use, the falling edge of the Chip Select of the ADC asynchronously starts the sampling of the ADC, and if I drive this CS signal from a Spartan 3A FPGA, how much is the jitter in the sampling. Alternatively, one of the engineers proposed that I use an external D-FF IC running on a extremely low jitter clock and the D input be tied to the FPGA CS pin, I have attached a application note claiming a 20 ps jitter by adopting this approach. I am not sure how different it is from an FPGA driven solution. Is there additional clock or any other form of jitter that gets produced in the FPGA which makes an external D-FF solution better? "http://cds.linear.com/docs/Datasheet/2355f.pdf page 13, minimizing jitter on the conv input." |
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首先让我说Spartan 3A FPGA中没有什么可以减少你的
时钟抖动,即任何进入FPGA的抖动也将出现。 然后,如果您使用DCM,则可以 期望在150 ps的区域内添加抖动,比具有低抖动的外部D-FF大得多 时钟。 此外,FPGA中不同级别的活动也会因感应而产生抖动 Vccint和Vcco耗材上的噪音。 根据您使用的包装,可以 由地面反弹引起的抖动也是如此。 所以底线是6针SOT-23 picogate D触发器让你自己避免头痛。 还要确保你的时钟振荡器 并且D触发器在同一个非常干净的滤波电源上,并在之前缓冲时钟 你将它运行到板载的其余逻辑,包括FPGA。 你可以调整时间 在FPGA中使用DCM相移确保您满足设置和保持要求 D触发器。 HTH, 的Gabor - Gabor 在原帖中查看解决方案 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Let me start by saying that there's nothing in the Spartan 3A FPGA that can reduce your clock jitter, i.e. any jitter into the FPGA will also come out. Then if you use a DCM you can expect additive jitter in the area of 150 ps, a lot more than the external D-FF with low jitter clock. In addition, varying levels of activity in the FPGA can also produce jitter due to induced noise on the Vccint and Vcco supplies. Depending on the package you use, there could be jitter induced by ground bounce as well. So the bottom line is get that 6-pin SOT-23 picogate D flip-flop and save yourself the headaches. Also make sure your clock oscillator and the D flip-flop are on the same very clean filtered supply, and buffer the clock before you run it to the rest of the logic on board, including the FPGA. You can adjust the timing in the FPGA using DCM phase shift to ensure you meet the setup and hold requirements of the D flip-flop. HTH, Gabor -- GaborView solution in original post |
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首先让我说Spartan 3A FPGA中没有什么可以减少你的
时钟抖动,即任何进入FPGA的抖动也将出现。 然后,如果您使用DCM,则可以 期望在150 ps的区域内添加抖动,比具有低抖动的外部D-FF大得多 时钟。 此外,FPGA中不同级别的活动也会因感应而产生抖动 Vccint和Vcco耗材上的噪音。 根据您使用的包装,可以 由地面反弹引起的抖动也是如此。 所以底线是6针SOT-23 picogate D触发器让你自己避免头痛。 还要确保你的时钟振荡器 并且D触发器在同一个非常干净的滤波电源上,并在之前缓冲时钟 你将它运行到板载的其余逻辑,包括FPGA。 你可以调整时间 在FPGA中使用DCM相移确保您满足设置和保持要求 D触发器。 HTH, 的Gabor - Gabor 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Let me start by saying that there's nothing in the Spartan 3A FPGA that can reduce your clock jitter, i.e. any jitter into the FPGA will also come out. Then if you use a DCM you can expect additive jitter in the area of 150 ps, a lot more than the external D-FF with low jitter clock. In addition, varying levels of activity in the FPGA can also produce jitter due to induced noise on the Vccint and Vcco supplies. Depending on the package you use, there could be jitter induced by ground bounce as well. So the bottom line is get that 6-pin SOT-23 picogate D flip-flop and save yourself the headaches. Also make sure your clock oscillator and the D flip-flop are on the same very clean filtered supply, and buffer the clock before you run it to the rest of the logic on board, including the FPGA. You can adjust the timing in the FPGA using DCM phase shift to ensure you meet the setup and hold requirements of the D flip-flop. HTH, Gabor -- Gabor |
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谢谢,加尔博尔。
这真的有帮助。 我不确定,因为对我来说,没有办法量化外部D-FF解决方案更好。 - 拉维 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Thanks, Garbor. It really helps. I wasn't sure, because for me there was no way to quantify that the external D-FF solution was better. -- Ravi |
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