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我一直在研究E4436B ESG-DP,它在冷却时工作正常,但一旦温度升高,就会在整个GHz频率(1 GHz,2 GHz和3 GHz)失去PLL锁定。
PLL解锁范围仅比整个GHz频率低几MHz,即低于约980MHz,1.98GHz,2.98GHz,输出再次被锁定和清洁。 即使是1GHz和2GHz以上的最小频移(例如,10毫赫兹)也会导致立即锁定PLL并具有干净的输出。 我认为这是合成器的温度引起的问题,因为用冷冻喷雾冷却侧卡笼解决了问题,虽然是暂时的。进一步的调查,在我看来好像两个12伏冷却风扇不是 实际上,当我测量风扇两端的电压时,它只有7.5伏特,如果我断开一个或两个风扇(两个断开时都是12伏特),它会增加。 每个风扇连接器的12伏侧为12伏WRT机箱接地,但风扇连接器的负极端子从0伏特上升到大约4.5伏特,两个风扇都连接在一起。似乎12伏风扇应该得到 12伏,但这实际上可能是正常的行为吗? 是否存在某种基于温度的风扇电压调节? 如果没有,是否有一个简单的解决方案?谢谢,斯坦 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 I've been working on an E4436B ESG-DP that works fine when cold but loses PLL lock at the whole GHz frequencies (1 GHz, 2 GHz, and 3 GHz) once it's wARMed up a bit. The PLL unlock range extends only a few MHz lower than the whole GHz frequency, i.e., below about 980 MHz, 1.98 GHz, 2.98 GHz the output is again locked and clean. Even the smallest frequency shift (e.g., 10 millihertz) above 1 GHz and 2 GHz causes immediate PLL lock with clean output. I thought this was a temperature-induced problem with the synthesizer, since cooling off the side card cage with freeze spray got rid of the problem, albeit temporarily. On further investigation, it seemed to me as though the two 12 volt cooling fans were not moving a lot of air, and, in fact, when I measured the voltage across the fans, it was only 7.5 volts, increasing if I disconnected one or both fans (12 volts with both disconnected). The 12 volt side of each fan connector is at 12 volts WRT chassis ground, but the negative terminal of the fan connector floats up from 0 volts to around 4.5 volts with both fans connected. It seems as though the 12 volt fans ought to be getting 12 volts, but could this in fact be normal behavior? Is there some sort of temperature-based regulation of the fan voltage? If not, is there a simple fix? Thanks, Stan |
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更多信息:首先,当我说PLL解锁到3 GHz以下时,我错了。
从2.000 000 000 01 GHz一直到3 GHz,它都是坚如磐石的。 看了ESG-DP的框图后,这是出乎意料的(无论如何)。 除了前面提到的1 GHz以下和2 GHz以下的解锁外,我还发现解锁问题从大约495 MHz到500 MHz,尽管没有其他两个区域那么糟糕。 在1.5 GHz或2.5 GHz附近没有明显的问题。第二,我将大冷却风扇从主板上断开,并将其直接连接到外部12 V电源。 风扇响亮,显然正在移动更多的空气,但即便如此,几分钟后,亚500 MHz,低于1 GHz和低于2 GHz的解锁问题再次出现。 仪器正在加热并导致振荡器链中的某些东西解锁,但我不知道如何从这里开始。 FRAC-N测试通过,但我不知道测试有多严格.Stan 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 A little more information: First, I was mistaken when I said that the PLL unlocked below 3 GHz. It's rock-solid from 2.000 000 000 01 GHz all the way up to 3 GHz. Having looked at the block diagram of the ESG-DP, this is unexpected (to me, anyway). In addition to the previously mentioned sub-1 GHz and sub-2 GHz unlocking, I also found an unlock problem from about 495 MHz to 500 MHz, although not as bad as the other two areas. There is no apparent problem around 1.5 GHz or 2.5 GHz. Second, I disconnected the big cooling fan from the motherboard and connected it directly to an external 12 V supply. The fan was louder and clearly was moving more air, but even so, after a few minutes the sub-500 MHz, sub-1 GHz, and sub-2 GHz unlock problems recurred. The instrument is heating up and causing something in the oscillator chain to unlock, but I'm not sure how to proceed from here. The FRAC-N test passes, but I don't know how rigorous that test is. Stan |
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传奇继续......在将我的E4436B风扇噪音与E4432B进行比较后,我确定风扇可能没问题,特别是因为我使用风扇的外部12 V电源将风扇速度提高到最大值的测试没有改变
当设备预热时,合成器的行为会失锁。为此,我使用服务软件尝试校准E4436B。 FRAC-N电路板通过了测试,校准工作直到KV与频率校准的关系。 该测试失败,MHz / V值为15.761(正常范围16.000至25.000)。 这代表什么? 它是一个边缘的特定模块吗? 如果是这样,如果没有更换模块,是否可以进行任何调整或修理?谢谢,斯坦 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 The saga continues... After comparing my E4436B fan noise to an E4432B, I determined that the fans are probably okay, particularly since my test of increasing the fan speed to maximum using an external 12 V power supply for the fan did not change the behavior of the synthesizer losing lock when the unit warmed up. Given all that, I used the service software to try to calibrate the E4436B. The FRAC-N board passed its test, and the calibration worked right up to the point of the KV versus Frequency calibration. This test failed with a MHz/V value of 15.761 (normal range 16.000 to 25.000). What does this represent? Is it a particular module that is marginal? If so, short of replacing the module, is there any adjustment or repair possible? Thanks, Stan |
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我已经找到了问题!
它是E4436B的FRAC-N板上的温度敏感IC。 FRAC-N板是A24(部件号为E4423-60019),坏的IC是A24U313,部件号为1GC1-4210。 它是一个分频器芯片。 安捷伦通过详细说明此观察到的故障模式的服务说明(E4435B-01E)解决了这个问题,并表示有缺陷的IC被指定为“HP”作为制造商,而良好的IC被指定为“安捷伦”作为制造商。 我的IC发生故障,但被指定为“安捷伦”。 有趣的是,它是电路板上唯一的“安捷伦”IC。 所有其他产品都被指定为“HP”,因此我认为U313至少已被更换一次。问题:安捷伦是否仍有1GC1-4210 IC的库存来替换有缺陷的IC? 安捷伦指定IC的故障是由安捷伦进行的修补吗?问候,Stan 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 I've figured out the problem! It's a temperature sensitive IC on the FRAC-N board of the E4436B. The FRAC-N board is A24 (p/n E4423-60019), and the IC that's bad is A24U313, p/n 1GC1-4210. It's a divider chip. Agilent addressed this issue with a service note (E4435B-01E) elaborating on this observed failure mode, and said that the defective ICs are designated "HP" as the manufacturer, while the good ICs are designated "Agilent" as the manufacturer. My IC has failed, but is designated "Agilent." Interestingly enough, it's the only "Agilent" IC on the board. All of the others are designated "HP" so I think U313 has already been replaced at least once. Questions: Does Agilent still have stock of the 1GC1-4210 IC to replace defective ones? Is the failure of an Agilent-designated IC a covered repair by Agilent? Regards, Stan |
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嗨Stan - 提到的服务说明(E4435B-01E)已经过期,我们不对此进行任何承保修复。
但是,维修中心可以通过更换有缺陷的部件U313 1GC1-4210来代替更换整个组件进行维修。 最好的方法是将其发送到离您最近的服务中心进行维修。 问候 - 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hi Stan - The Service note mentioned (E4435B-01E), has expired and we don’t do any covered repair for this. However, the Service Center can do the repair for you by replacing the defective component, U313 1GC1-4210, instead of replacing the whole assembly. The best way would be to send this to your nearest Service Center for repair. Regards - |
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