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我正在设计一个带有芯片天线的nrf52832 SoC的四层叠层PCB(2450AT18B100:http://www.kynix.com/Detail/744089/2450AT18B100E.html)。它是BLE板(2.45 GHz)。
这是我第一次使用天线设计PCB。 我正在使用kicad EDA软件。 我的设计叠加是: 接地铜填充的信号和RF走线(下图中的绿色) 地平面 3.3V平面 底部平面(基本上是实心地平面)(下图中的红色) 我将添加许多过孔(RF频率的1/12,即2.45 GHz)。 天线部分还没有完成,因为我还没有收到我的PCB制造厂的一些规格。 考虑到信号平面和地平面之间的距离,我将改变天线馈源的宽度和形状。 我有一个关于天线馈线宽度计算的问题。 因为,我有四层,我可以使用共面波导的公式与底部地平面? 电源平面和底层不会影响共面波导的阻抗吗? 我是否需要考虑电源层和底层(实际为实心地平面)的存在。 注意:我布局左侧的另一个传感器是CCD(TCD1304),它基本上是一个线性图像传感器。 我想从社区得到的建议是关于pcb并审查我的RF设计。 因为,这是我第一次设计这样的电路板,我不想设计一个不能工作或工作时间很短的PCB。 我的PCB图片如下: 图片1: 图2: 图片2: 在查看了我的芯片天线的数据表和Johanson Technology的建议之后,我可以看到他们建议了一个我没有空间的大型地平面。你可以查看我上面的布局图片,因为我有标记的天线区域(7mm X 23毫米)。 下图来自Johanson Technology的布局建议: 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 I am designing a four layer stack up PCB having nrf52832 SoC with chip antenna (2450AT18B100: http://www.kynix.com/Detail/744089/2450AT18B100E.html).It is BLE Board (2.45 GHz). This is the first time I have been designing a PCB with an antenna. I am using kicad EDA Software. The stackup of my design is:
NOTE: The other sensor in the left part of my layout is a CCD (TCD1304) which is basically a linear image sensor. What I want from the community is suggestion on the pcb and review my design for RF. Since, this is the first time I have designed such a board, I don’t want to design a PCB which won’t work or work with very short range. The pictures of my PCB are given below: Picture 1: Picture 2: Picture3: After reviewing the datasheet of my chip antenna and suggestions from Johanson Technology, I can see they have suggested a large ground plane for which I don’t have space.You can check pictures of my layout above as I have marked area for antenna (7mm X 23mm).The picture below are taken from Johanson Technology’s layout suggestion: |
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对于这样的事情,我可能会把你推荐给制造商。
我知道Johanson在他们的产品上有一些设计协助和审查服务。 这是该页面的链接。 johansontechnology.com Johanson Technology的高质量多层高Q电容器 Johanson Technology是高频陶瓷解决方案的供应商。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 For something like this I would probably refer you to the manufacturer. I know Johanson so some design assistance and review services on their products. Here is a link to that page. johansontechnology.com Quality Multi-Layer High-Q Capacitors from Johanson Technology Johanson Technology is your source for High Frequency Ceramic Solutions. |
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我推荐Eric Bogatin简化信号完整性(ISBN 0130669466)作为一种资源,值得为那些对电子产品开发感兴趣的人们进行收购和研究。
这不是世界上最便宜的文字,但如果从节省董事会旋转的角度看待它,并且在那令人不快的“它不起作用,我不知道为什么”的发展阶段花费的时间,这是一个讨价还价。 没有阅读更新版本(ISBN 013451341X),据说包含更多主题并且花费更多钱,但我怀疑它也值得一试。 至于最初的问题,要检查的两个基本项目是确保天线的馈线具有适当的特征阻抗,并清除天线下方的地平面,原因与进行移动无线电装置的人员使用相同的基本原因 同轴电缆代替旧的圣诞灯串,并将天线安装在车辆外部而不是在行李箱内。 阻抗问题是迹线宽度,层布局,电路板材料和叠层的函数。 如果您还想了解其背后的“原因”,请参考许多可用于快速检查的在线计算器中的一种,或Bogatin或类似参考。 另请注意,任何超出地平面的走线长度都会成为天线的一部分而不是馈线,并会影响结果。 请注意,在上面的样本布局中,与天线串联的小SMT元件是如何精确放置在地平面的边缘上的? 这就是馈线结束和天线开始的点,SMT放置允许通过元件选择实现微调功能。 如果所显示的布局不提供一些关键信息,那么提供任何信心的竖起或下降都很困难。 虽然在无地区似乎确实存在某种形式的发球网络,这对我来说这个区域可能不像它应该的那样没有地面。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 I’d recommend Signal Integrity Simplified by Eric Bogatin (ISBN 0130669466) as a resource worthy of acquisition and study for folks that are interested in electronics development beyond the trivial. It’s not the cheapest text in the world, but a bargain if one looks at it from the perspective of saving board spins and time spent in that unpleasant “it doesn’t work and I have no idea why” stage of development. Haven’t read the updated version (ISBN 013451341X) that supposedly includes more topics and costs more money, but I suspect it’d be worth the scratch also. As to the original question, two foundational items to check on would be ensuring that the feedline to the antenna has the proper characteristic impedance, and to clear away ground planes from beneath the antenna, for the same basic reasons that folks doing mobile radio installations use coax cable instead of an old string of Christmas lights and mount the antenna on the outside of the vehicle instead of inside the trunk. The impedance question is a function of trace width, layer placement, board material, and stackup. Consult one of many online calculators available for a quick check, or Bogatin or similar references if you’d like to also understand a bit more of the ‘why’ behind it. Notice also that any trace length extending beyond the ground plane effectively becomes part of the antenna rather than the feedline, and will affect results. Notice how in the sample layouts above, the little SMT component in series with the antenna is placed precisely on the edge of the ground plane? That’s the point where feedline ends and antenna begins, and the SMT placement allows a smidge of fine-tuning capability through component selection. Insofar as the layouts shown don’t provide some key info, offering a thumbs-up or -down with any confidence is difficult. There does appear to be a tee network of some form in the ground-free area though, which suggests to me that that region might not be as ground-free as perhaps it ought. |
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