具有VMWare ESX的vDGA网格（无Horizon View）

你好notrobb，
请按照http://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/techpaper/vmware-horizo​​n-view-graphics-acceleration-deployment.pdf上的安装说明进行操作，并注意vDGA（GPU Passthrough）不需要振动驱动程序。
vSGA和vGPU有振动驱动器，但vDGA不需要振动驱动器
如果有帮助，请告诉我。
谢谢，
Erik Bohnhorst
NVIDIA GRID高级解决方案架构师



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Hello notrobb,

please follow the installation instructions at http://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/techpaper/vmware-horizon-view-graphics-acceleration-deployment.pdf and note that no vib driver is required for vDGA (GPU Passthrough). There is a vib driver for vSGA and vGPU but none is necessary for vDGA

Let me know if that helps.

Thanks,
Erik Bohnhorst

NVIDIA GRID Senior Solution Architect

嗨埃里克，
感谢您的回复。
我们安装了.vib驱动程序，因为有些测试人员想要在vSGA，vDGA和vGPU之间来回切换。
我应该删除它们以使vDGA工作吗？
另外，为了确认，如果我不使用Horizo​​n View，Horizo​​n View文档应该可以正常工作吗？



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Hi Eric,

Thanks for your reply. We installed the .vib drivers because some testers want to switch back and forth between vSGA, vDGA and vGPU. Should I remove them for vDGA to work?

Also, just to confirm, the Horizon View docs should work if I'm not using Horizon View?

嗨notrobb，
你是什​​么意思“我没有使用Horizo​​n View”？
请从ESXi卸载所有vib文件。
一旦vDGA工作，我们也可以运行它们。
谢谢，
埃里克
NVIDIA GRID高级解决方案架构师



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Hi notrobb,

what do you mean by "I'm not using Horizon View"?

Please uninstall all vib files off of ESXi. Once vDGA works, we can get those running as well.

Thanks,
Erik

NVIDIA GRID Senior Solution Architect

嗨埃里克，
我的意思是我没有在VM上安装VMWare Horizo​​n View Agent，而我没有将它们连接到Horizo​​n View Server。
我只是在ESXi上运行一个VM，我希望使用vDGA passthrough。
现在我们通过控制台连接，然后我们将转向其他方式。
这支持吗？
关于使用vDGA和Passthrough的所有文档似乎都明确谈到了使用VMWare Horizo​​n View（我们不是这样）。
我将卸载.vibs，看看是否有帮助。



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Hi Eric,

I mean that I am not installing the VMWare Horizon View Agent on the VM and I am not connecting them to a Horizon View Server. I simply have a VM running on ESXi and am hoping to use vDGA passthrough.

For now we're connecting via the console, and then we'll move on to other means. Is this supported? All the documentation about using vDGA and Passthrough seem to explicitly talk about using VMWare Horizon View (which we are not).

I'll uninstall the .vibs and see if that helps.

将GPU分配给VM后，无法使用控制台。
目前，vSphere控制台与支持GPU的VM不兼容，并且存在鼠标交互和通过控制台输入的问题。
我们不知道VMware计划更新控制台。
由于RDP不允许加速连接，特别是DirectX完全禁用。
建议您安装另一个远程处理解决方案，例如Horizo​​n VIEW Direct Connection。



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You cannot use the console once a GPU is assigned to a VM. Currently the vSphere console is not compatible with GPU enabled VM's and has issues with mouse interaction and input via the console. We don't know VMware's plans to update the console.


As RDP will not allow accelerated connections, in particular DirectX is completely disabled. It is recommended that you install another remoting solution, such as Horizon VIEW Direct Connection.

您不能在同一物理主机上使用vGPU和vSGA。
它们目前是互斥的。



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You cannot use vGPU and vSGA on the same physical host. They are mutually exclusive at this time.

我是否需要从esxi 5.5卸载Vib，因为我只需要启用Gpu passthrough，因此VM可以直接使用，我需要什么样的软件来查看VM。
谢谢。



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do I need to uninstall the Vib from the esxi 5.5, because i just need to enable the Gpu passthrough , so the VM can use directly, what kind of the software do i need to view the VM.

Thanks.

.vib不会影响passthrough，因此您可以将其保留在原位。



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The .vib doesn't affect passthrough, so you can leave it in place.

这令人沮丧：我认为他们所说的是：我们怎样才能在Nvidia Grid K1上使用vDGA或共享GPU而无需使用HORIZON。
这是我的看法：我可以把K1卡 - 尚未尝试，但很快 - 进入Windows Server 2012 R2 Hyper V主机，并在MINUTES内开始与虚拟机共享GPU。
我已经使用Nvidia Titan Z完成了这项工作，与24位Hyper-V主机分享它的2 GPUS，就像我说的那样，安装只花了MINUTES，而不是像VMWare Horizo​​n那样HOURS或DAY ...... VMWare显然很荒谬
创建这样一个巨大的绊脚石或服务器要求（超过4台服务器和完整的Active Directory部署）只是为了与虚拟机共享翻转GPU。
谈论屁股的痛苦，特别是如果我想要做的就是向一个可能会说螺丝VMWare / Nvidia的客户展示现场硬件 - 我们只是希望能够播放720p电影进行培训
vms就是这样。
在LAN上，而不是WAN。
RemoteFX比Horizo​​n View更容易设置。
如果您的虚拟机少于50个并且只想分享非常基本的GPU体验，Horizo​​n视图会很糟糕。
因此，简而言之：使用VMWARE需要数小时，甚至DAYS才能完成，而Windows Sever 2012只需要MINUTES。
当然，WAN标准在标准带宽上对RemoteFX很可怕，但不是每个人都希望如此。
我花了几周时间试图找到有关如何在VMware ESXI 6上共享GPU的资源，而无需部署Nvidia Grid / Horizo​​n，而且它很短。
现在是否可以使用Esxi 6.0 Hypervisor在Vsphere Sever之外使用Grid K1配置文件？
我们是否必须推动VMWare的垃圾Horizo​​n客户端并使用PCOIP即使只是一个简单的32站局域网？
如果是这样，那么说出来：说出来......你需要花费数千美元的VMWare View Horizo​​n来使用唯一的方法来使用PCOIP在VMWARE上获得共享GPU ...这是唯一的方式，你必须花钱
服务器和VMWARE HORIZON licenes中的成千上万的美元，再加上你必须支付网格K1或K2卡...所以如果你想在局域网上做简单的多媒体，你最好使用Windows Server 2012和经过批准的GPU
这可以通过使用RemoteFX在局域网上共享......它打破了Horizo​​n的成本和安装的痛苦之门。
我希望我错了，Nvidia：我想做的就是将Nvidia Grid卖给可能有50台台式电脑的客户，他们想要转换成VDI ......他们会有远程员工，但简单的RDP很好，甚至没有机器
对于温和的可接受的多媒体软件编解码器...但来吧 - 为什么VMWare / NVidia不能变得聪明并让像我这样的人 - 一个解决方案架构师，VDI优化专家 - 采取基础Vsphere Essentials安装，流行
在一个Nvidia Grid K1卡，或其中两个，或1或两个Nvidia K2卡，然后在局域网上使用它们而不必创建一个翻转DATACENTER的服务器，他们甚至不想使用，更不用说了！
不是每个人都想使用Active Directory。
这对于有简单需求的小型Lans来说太过分了，但可能需要扩大规模...是的，我可以安装闭路电视广播 - 这不是重点。
我的客户想要为YouTube视频构建基本的AB / roll视频编辑，并与网络上的其他主机共享，而不是上传到YouTube，然后分享 - 他们看到了你的演示 - 他们叫我......“我们想要
使用Nvidia Grid！“
我喜欢，哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇哇
直接连接可能没问题 - 但我仍然需要部署一个完整的Horizo​​n部署......所以无论如何，我在Sever 2012R2上采用了Titan Z，并且真正生产了30台虚拟机，其中24台可同时支付全屏高清视频
通过局域网，并能够在一天内完成。
地平线部署。
天。
不适合演示，完全没有。



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This is frustrating: I think what they are saying is this: how can we use vDGA or shared GPU on Nvidia Grid K1 WITHOUT HAVING TO USE HORIZON.  Here's my take: I can put the K1 card-- haven't tried yet, but am shortly-- into a Windows Server 2012 R2 Hyper V host and within MINUTES start sharing the GPUs with virtual machines.  I have already done this using an Nvidia Titan Z, sharing it's 2 GPUS with 24 Hyper-V hosts and like I said, the installation took only MINUTES, not HOURS or DAYs as it does with VMWare Horizon... It's patently ridiculous that VMWare creates such a HUGE stumbling block, or sever requirement (over 4 servers and a full Active Directory deployment) just to share a flipping GPU with virtual machines.  Talk about a pain in the butt, especially if all I am trying to do is demonstrate with live hardware to a client who is probably going to say screw VMWare / Nvidia-- we just want to be able to play 720p movies for training on our vms and that is it.  On a LAN, not WAN.  RemoteFX is so much easier to setup than Horizon View.  Horizon view stinks if you have less than 50 virtual machines and simply want to share a very basic GPU experience.  So, in short: with VMWARE it takes Hours, even DAYS to do it and with Windows Sever 2012 just MINUTES.  Granted, the WAN peformance is horrid with RemoteFX on standard bandwidth, but not everyone expects that.  I have spent weeks trying to find resources on how to share a GPU on VMware ESXI 6 without having to deploy Nvidia Grid / Horizon and it comes up short.

Is there now way to be able to use Grid K1 profiles right off of a Vsphere Sever with Esxi 6.0 Hypervisor?  Do we HAVE to push VMWare's junk Horizon client and use PCOIP even for just a simple 32 station Local Area Network?  If so, then state it: say this... YOU HAVE TO SPEND thousands of dollars of VMWare View Horizon in order to use the only way to get shared GPU on VMWARE using PCOIP... it's THE ONLY WAY and YOU HAVE TO SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in SERVERS and in VMWARE HORIZON licenes, plus you have to pay for a Grid K1 or K2 Card... so if you want to do simple Multimedia on a LAN, you are better off with Windows Server 2012 and an approved GPU that can be shared on a LAN using RemoteFX... it's blows the doors off of the pain in there costs and installations of Horizon by a GREAT MARGIN.

I hoped I am wrong, Nvidia: all I want to do is sell Nvidia Grid to clients who may have 50 desktop computers they want to convert to VDI... they will have remote employees, but simple RDP is fine, or even No Machine for mildly acceptable Multimedia software codec... but c'mon-- Why can't VMWare / NVidia get smart and enable a person like me-- a solutions architect, VDI optimization expert-- to take a basice Vsphere Essentials installation, pop in an Nvidia Grid K1 card, or two of them, or 1 or two Nvidia K2 cards and then use them on a LAN without having to create a flipping DATACENTER of Severs they don't want to even use let alone have!  Not everyone wants to use Active Directory.  It's overkill over small Lans who have simple needs, but may want scale up... yes, I can install close circuit TV broadcast-- that's not the point.  I have clients that want to build basic AB/roll video editing for YouTube videos and share them with other hosts on the network and not upload to YouTube, then share-- and they saw your demo-- they called me.. "We want to use Nvidia Grid!"  I'm like, wow it hauls butt-- but then, after finding out you have to run Active Directory with a Horizon View Connection Server gobbling up 10GB RAM and forcing you to route packets through a software gateway is retarded, especially for LAN.  Direct connect is probably okay-- but I still have to deploy a full Horizon deployment... so anyway, I've taken a Titan Z on Sever 2012R2 and literally produced 30 virtual machines, 24 of which could pay full screen HD Video simultaneously over a LAN and was able to accomplish that within a day.

The horizon deployment.  Days.  Not good for a demo, not at all.

Grid vGPU是vSphere not Horizo​​n的一项功能，您不需要Horizo​​n或AD或其他任何东西来在vm上设置vGPU配置文件，不确定vGPU配置文件需要Horizo​​n的位置。
请参阅https://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/compare以了解版本的Hypervisor功能。
如果您参考矩阵，您将看到它是vSphere中Enterprise Plus的一项功能，因此您使用Essentials的计划将不可行。
你可以使用你想要的任何协议远程屏幕，但远程协议需要能够做3D  - 故事结束。
我还建议可能对Horizo​​n的网络拓扑进行更多研究。
您不必被迫通过软件网关路由，它是一个选项（通常不用于内部LAN流量）。
以下链接显示了一些可用的网络路径：
https://blogs.vmware.com/consulting/2014/06/vmware-horizo​​n-6-view-firewall-network-ports-visualized.html
正如您所看到的那样，直接通信或从客户端到桌面的隧道通信都可用于配置。
V / R，
迈克尔鲍尔
高级系统工程师 -  EUC
VMware，Inc。



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Grid vGPU is a feature of vSphere not Horizon, you dont need Horizon or AD or anything else to setup a vGPU profile on a vm, not sure where you got that Horizon was required for a vGPU profile.  

Please refer to https://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/compare to understand Hypervisor capabilities by edition.  If you refer to the matrix, you will see it is a feature of Enterprise Plus in vSphere, so your plan to use Essentials would not be feasible.  

You can use whatever protocol you want to remote the screen, but the remoting protocol needs to be able to do 3D - end of story.

I would also suggest possibly doing a little more research on the network topology for Horizon as well.  You are not forced to route through a software gateway, it is an option (usually not used for internal LAN traffic).  Below is a link that shows some of the network paths available:

https://blogs.vmware.com/consulting/2014/06/vmware-horizon-6-view-firewall-network-ports-visualized.html

As you can see direct communication OR tunneled communication to the desktops from the clients are both available for configuration.

V/R,
Michael Bauer
Sr. Systems Engineer - EUC
VMware, Inc.

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@ HelpMe2000
添加迈克尔的评论。
vSphere中的vGPU可供任何将在vSphere之上运行的解决方案使用，因此，如果您想使用除Horizo​​n之外的VDI解决方案，则只要该远程处理解决方案支持该解决方案即可。
我们有许多客户使用替代解决方案，因此如果不需要，您不会被迫使用Horizo​​n。
如果您希望使用RemoteFX，则需要遵守Microsoft为硬件加速设置的要求。
这些都是Nvidia或VMware无法控制的。
顺便说一下，根据我的经验，从头开始构建一个完整的Horizo​​n部署只需要几个小时，如果AD，DNS，SQL等已经到位，则会少一些。
这只是经验和知识的问题，而不是产品集的限制。
VMware和Nvidia联合编写了一份完整的部署指南，基于将K1 / 2与vSphere 6一起部署，这将指导您完成部署所需的每一步。
在此之后，大多数人都可以在一天之内建立一个PoC。
https://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/products/horizo​​n/grid-vgpu-deployment-guide.pdf
目前正在使用VMware的最新更新将其更新为GRID 2.0。
Windows Server使用与Nvidia vGPU不同的方法，并且不会让VM直接访问GPU。
它使用API​​拦截机制，将图形调用从VM转换为主机。
这对您来说可能更容易实现，但它与资源上的vGPU部署相比，对资源的控制更少，对图形的系统RAM要求更低，性能更低，API支持水平更低（特别是缺乏完整的OpenGL支持）。
同一主持人。



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@HelpMe2000

To add to Michael's comments.

vGPU in vSphere can be used by any solution that will run on top of vSphere, so if you want to use a VDI solution other than Horizon then you can, as long as that remoting solution supports it. We have many customers using alternative solutions so you are not forced to use Horizon if it is not required.

If you wish to use RemoteFX, then you will need to comply with the requirements set down by Microsoft for hardware acceleration. Those are something that neither Nvidia or VMware can control.

As an aside, in my experience, it takes a matter of hours to build a full Horizon deployment from scratch, less if the AD, DNS, SQL etc are already in place. It's just a matter of experience and knowledge, not a limitation in the product set.

There is a complete deployment guide written jointly by VMware and Nvidia based on deploying K1/2 with vSphere 6 and this takes you through every step required for a complete deployment. Following this to the letter, most people can build a PoC in under a day.


https://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/products/horizon/grid-vgpu-deployment-guide.pdf


This is currently being updated to GRID 2.0 with the latest updates from VMware.

Windows Server uses a different approach to Nvidia vGPU and doesn't give the VM's direct access to the GPU. It uses an API interception mechanism which translates graphics calls from VM to host. This may be easier for you to implement, but it provides less control over resources, requires system RAM for the graphics, delivers lower performance, and lower levels of API support (specifically it lacks full OpenGL support) when compared to a vGPU deployment on the same host.

你好，
在最新版本的ESXi中，您无法将GRID核心传递给vms！
意味着vDGA不再起作用。
这是nVidia还是VMWare问题？
在5.5中一切正常。
我们在vmware上打开了一个案例，但是工程师没有找到解决方案。



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Hello,
in the newest version of ESXi you cannot passthrough the GRID cores to vms! Means vDGA does not work anymore. Is this a nVidia or a VMWare problem? In 5.5 everything was working fine. We have opend a case at vmware, but the engineers does not find a solution.

磕碰



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BUMP

你能提供更多细节吗？
VMware确实支持vSphere 6中的vDGA。



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Could you provide more detail?

VMware does support vDGA in vSphere 6.

你能提供更多细节吗？
VMware确实支持vSphere 6中的vDGA。
对不起，这篇双重帖子。
我在这里贴了一切：
https://gridforums.nvidia.com/default/topic/288/general-discussion/problem-with-k1-and-vmware-view-device-8-0-0-is-already-in-use-/
似乎ESxi 6不支持vDGA！
也许只在R720上 - 我们只有这个系列。



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Could you provide more detail?

VMware does support vDGA in vSphere 6.

Sorry for this double post. I have posted everything here:


https://gridforums.nvidia.com/default/topic/288/general-discussion/problem-with-k1-and-vmware-view-device-8-0-0-is-already-in-use-/


It seems that ESxi 6 doesn't support vDGA! Maybe only on R720 - we only have this series.

亲爱的大家
我正在努力的类似的东西......试图弄清楚我的配置中是否存在任何兼容性问题
硬件：
Core i7 4930k Proc
华硕P9X79-WS主板
64千兆拉姆
2个SSD
2个带Quadro SyncBoard的Nvidia Quadro K6000 GPU
Vmware vSphere Esxi 6.0更新2
安装了2个VM的ESXI。
直通K6000和两个虚拟机运行完美4输出（Windows 7 x64）
以下是问题：
使用Nvidia驱动程序版本362.56
Nvidia控制面板缺少马赛克功能 - 使用马赛克实用程序命令行对其进行排序
Nvidia控制面板无法配置Syncboard。
如果我检查系统信息，我可以看到同步板，但我无法配置同步
有这个问题的人吗？
我认为对于这种类型的设置我不需要esxi主机上的任何VIB文件。
如果我错了，请纠正我
问候
卡齐姆



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Dear All

Something similar I am working on....trying to figure out if there is any compatibility issue or whatsoever in my configuration

Hardware:

Core i7 4930k Proc
Asus P9X79-WS Motherboard
64 Gig Ram
2 SSDs
2 Nvidia Quadro K6000 GPUs with Quadro SyncBoard
Vmware vSphere Esxi 6.0 update 2

Installed ESXI with 2 VMs. Passthrough K6000 and both the VMs are running perfectly 4 output each (Windows 7 x64)

Following are the issues:

Using Nvidia driver ver 362.56
Nvidia Control Panel missing mosaic feature - Got it sorted by using mosaic utility command line
Nvidia Control Panel no option to configure Syncboard. If i check the system information, i can see the sync board but i cannot configure the sync

Anyone with this issue?. I think for this type of setup i dont need any VIB files on the esxi host. correct me if I am wrong

Regards

Kazim

它不受支持
https://gridforums.nvidia.com/default/topic/837/nvidia-quadro-k6000-gpus-with-quadro-syncboard-vmware-esxi-passthrough/



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It's not supported


https://gridforums.nvidia.com/default/topic/837/nvidia-quadro-k6000-gpus-with-quadro-syncboard-vmware-esxi-passthrough/

我试图通过简单的传递图形进行评估并挣扎了好几天。
我想从HP z820工作站构建一个测试台。
双核8 Xeon配备128 GB RAM和SSD raid阵列。
ESXI 6.0和三个Quadro 4000显卡。
我想要的只是一种方法，使用图形加速的虚拟机进行一些Solidworks测试，并在将来为工程师提供周末和他们在路上的远程访问。
服务器，显卡，ESXI的加载都非常直接。
不想花钱购买评估项目的许可是一件很困难的事情，但我发现HP远程图形软件发送器/接收器可以实现加速图形。
每个HP Z工作站都附带一个许可证，他们有60天的eval许可证，购买许可证并不昂贵。
这是一个简单易用的远程客户端，几乎没有成本。
有一些怪癖。
＃1不从vsphere客户端打开控制台，这会禁用3d卡作为图形显示卡。
如果你这样做，没关系，启动图形接收器，登录，进入设备管理器并禁用VMware SVGA 3d卡，这将把VM切换回传输卡，在我的情况下是一个quadro 4000.这适用于什么
我需要它，一种用CAD图形运行一些VM的方法。
对于那些一直设置和配置VM的人来说可能很简单，但是vDGA和VGPU上的所有不同的pdf都让这个过程变得混乱。



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I was trying to do an evaluation with simple pass through graphics and struggled for several days. I wanted to build a test bed from a HP z820 workstation.  Dual 8 core Xeon's with 128 GB of RAM and and SSD raid array. ESXI 6.0 and three Quadro 4000 graphics cards. All I wanted was a way to use a graphically accelerated virtual machines for some Solidworks testing, and in the future to provide remote access for Engineers over the weekend and when they are on the road.  The server, graphics cards, loading of ESXI was all very straight forward.  Not wanting to spend cash on licensing for an evaluation project was a struggle but I found the HP remote graphics software sender/receiver can accomplish accelerated graphics. Every HP Z workstation comes with a license for it and they have a 60 day eval license, and to purchase a license its not expensive. This was a simple an easy to get going remote client with little to no cost.  There are a few quirks.  #1 do not open the console from vsphere client this disables the 3d card as the graphics display card.  If you do, its okay, launch the graphics receiver, login, go into device manger and disable the VMware SVGA 3d card, this will switch the VM back to the pass through card in my case a quadro 4000.  This is working well for what I needed it for, a way to run a few VM's with CAD graphics. It may be simple for those that setup and configure VM's all the time but all the different pdf's on vDGA and VGPU made this process confusing.