硬件没有内部时钟

嗨，在PC SW方面，我不想更改PC的时钟以延长许可证，因为这种非法的解决方案可能会给我带来一些不利因素。
此致，FUKUI Yutaka -----原帖----->来自：“Gonzalo Urday”>收件人：VRF>主题：[vrf] TIMER / CLOCK ???>日期：太阳，2007年8月5日20:05
：03 -0400 >>>大家好......>我们控制一块需要升级的外部硬件，我做了所有>初始代码，它是在VEE完成的，我打算继续使用> VEE这个
项目......新要求中的一个是基于时间的许可证的概念，（在试用期间启用硬件/软件功能，或者当用户不支付时，或者作为每月订阅费明显关闭>
当试用期到期时）....其中一个问题是硬件没有办法提供>内部时钟来提供数据或时间......硬件正在被重新设计为>此功能但是
问题是如何从可靠/真实/独立的来源获取时间和数据>信息？
我们已经考虑过添加一个GPS模块，但是对于这个特定的应用程序的定价是令人望而却步的，即使我们这样做，我还是觉得>这需要对硬件和软件进行重大改造以支持GPS>模块，另一个
选项是连接到互联网并从指定的网站获取>数据...问题是这是一个手持>我们不能强迫客户每次>用户打开设备时连接到网络
???
在PC SW方面我们有相同的>问题???
如果PC没有连接到网络，那么我们必须被迫使用内部时钟......但是这可以被用户操纵以永久延长许可证???
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     以下为原文

  Hi,


On the PC SW side, I do not like to change the PC's clock in order to extend the license because this illegal walkaround may cause some disadvantages for me.


Regards,
FUKUI Yutaka


----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gonzalo Urday"
>To: VRF
>Subject: [vrf] TIMER/CLOCK???
>Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 20:05:03 -0400
>
>
>Hello all...
>
>We control a piece of external HW that we need to upgrade, I did all
>the initial code and it was done in VEE and I intend to continue using
>VEE for this project..one of the new requirements is the idea of a time
>based license, (HW/SW features enabled during either as a a trial
>periods or as a monthly subscription fee that obviously gets turned off
>when the user does not pay or when the trial period expires)....one of
>the problems faced is that the HW does not have a means of having an
>internal clock to provide data or time...the HW is being redesigned to
>this capability but the question is how does one acquire time and data
>information from a reliable/authentic/independent source?? We have
>thought of adding a GPS module but pricing for this particular
>application is prohibitive and even if we do it I have the feeling that
>this would require a major redesing of the HW and SW to support a GPS
>module, the other option is to connect to the internet and acquire the
>data from a designated web site...the problem is that this a hand held
>and we can't force the customer to connect to the web everytime the
>user turns on the device??? On the PC SW side we have the same
>problem??? If the PC is not connected to the web then we have to be
>forced to use the internal clock...but this could be manipulated by the user to extend forever the license??? Does anybody have faced the same problem???
>Any suggestions???
>
>Regards
>
>Gonzalo
>
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对于PC端，请查看许可证保护程序。
您将看到它们包含一些项目以防止和跟踪PC时钟的变化。
我不知道如何使用许可证保护白色友好的问候，Yoeri Arien微波工程师MEMERSON＆amp;
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因为这种非法行走可能会给我带来一些不利因素。
此致，FUKUI Yutaka -----原帖----->来自：“Gonzalo Urday”>收件人：VRF>主题：[vrf] TIMER / CLOCK ???>日期：太阳，2007年8月5日20:05
：03 -0400 >>>大家好...... >>我们控制一块需要升级的外部硬件，我做了所有>初始代码，它是在VEE完成的，我打算继续使用VEE>
项目......新要求中的一个是基于时间的许可证的概念，（在试用期间启用硬件/软件功能或作为>每月订阅费用，当用户确实>不支付或
当试用期到期时）....面临的问题之一是>硬件没有内部时钟提供>数据或时间的手段......硬件正在重新设计为此功能但是>
问题是如何从>可靠/可靠/独立的来源获取时间和数据信息？
我们已经考虑过添加一个GPS>模块，但这个特定应用的定价是令人望而却步的，甚至>如果我们这样做，我觉得这需要对HW和SW进行重大改造以支持GPS模块，另一种选择
是连接到>互联网并从指定的网站获取数据...问题是>这是一个手持，我们不能强迫客户连接到网络>每次用户打开设备？
??
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如果PC没有连接到网络，那么我们必须强制>使用内部时钟......但是这可以被用户操纵以>永久地延长许可证???
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For the PC side have a look at license protector. You will see that they have included some items to prevent and to trace changes on the clock of the PC.
I am not sure how to use license protector whit vee
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Hi,


On the PC SW side, I do not like to change the PC's clock
in order to extend the license because this illegal walkaround
may cause some disadvantages for me.


Regards,
FUKUI Yutaka


----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gonzalo Urday"
>To: VRF
>Subject: [vrf] TIMER/CLOCK???
>Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 20:05:03 -0400
>
>
>Hello all...
>
>We control a piece of external HW that we need to upgrade, I did all the
>initial code and it was done in VEE and I intend to continue using VEE for
>this project..one of the new requirements is the idea of a time based
>license, (HW/SW features enabled during either as a a trial periods or as a
>monthly subscription fee that obviously gets turned off when the user does
>not pay or when the trial period expires)....one of the problems faced is
>that the HW does not have a means of having an internal clock to provide
>data or time...the HW is being redesigned to this capability but the
>question is how does one acquire time and data information from a
>reliable/authentic/independent source?? We have thought of adding a GPS
>module but pricing for this particular application is prohibitive and even
>if we do it I have the feeling that this would require a major redesing of
>the HW and SW to support a GPS module, the other option is to connect to the
>internet and acquire the data from a designated web site...the problem is
>that this a hand held and we can't force the customer to connect to the web
>everytime the user turns on the device??? On the PC SW side we have the same
>problem??? If the PC is not connected to the web then we have to be forced
>to use the internal clock...but this could be manipulated by the user to
>extend forever the license??? Does anybody have faced the same problem???
>Any suggestions???
>
>Regards
>
>Gonzalo
>
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