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根据UG393,批量旁路理想值100uF的建议上限为GRM32ER60J107ME200L。
不幸的是,我的卡可能会达到+93 celzius,这个上限达到+85。 在Xilinx的推荐下,我没有找到替代电容器 1(至少)100uF(最多) 2尺寸1210 X7R 3 ESL 5nHy 4 ESR在10到60 mohm之间 5 volatge(至少)6.3V 6温度高达125 还有另一个建议吗? 另外:我没有在制造商的数据表中看到ESL的参数,也没有看到ESR最小值的数据。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 per UG393, the suggested cap for bulk bypass ideal value 100uF is GRM32ER60J107ME200L. Unfortunatly, my card may get +93 celzius, and this cap is up to +85. i don't find substitute capacitor, with Xilinx's recommandation of 1 (at least) 100uF (at most) 2 size 1210 X7R 3 ESL 5nHy 4 ESR between 10 to 60 mohm 5 volatge (at least) 6.3V 6 temp up to 125 is there another suggestion? also: i don't see in the manufacture's data sheets parameters for ESL, and not data for minimum value of ESR. |
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请注意,可以使用除这些表中提供的解耦方法之外的解耦方法,但解耦网络应设计为满足或超过此处提供的简单解耦网络的性能。 在100 KHz到500 MHz的频率范围内,备用网络的阻抗必须小于或等于推荐网络的阻抗。 您必须使用Xilinx推荐的电容器和电容器进行仿真,并确保网络的阻抗小于xilinx网络的阻抗。 但建议使用这些表中的电容并进行表征。 谢谢,AnirudhPS:请将此标记作为答案,以防它有助于解决您的问题。如果帖子引导您找到解决方案,请给予赞誉。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hi, Please note that the decoupling methods other than those presented in those tables can be used, but the decoupling network should be designed to meet or exceed the performance of the simple decoupling networks presented here. The impedance of the alternate network must be less than or equal to that of the recommended network across frequencies from 100 KHz to 500 MHz. You would have to simulate with your capacitors for and the capacitors recommended by Xilinx and make sure the impedance of your network is less than then impedance of xilinx network. The capacitances from these table however are recommended to be used and have been characterized. Thanks, Anirudh PS: Please MARK this as an answer in case it helped resolve your query.Give kudos in case the post guided you to a solution. |
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如果需要,通常可以用两个或更多个较小的大容量盖子替换一个大容量盖帽,以获得具有所需特性的盖帽。
通常,这使得生活更容易,因为组合部件的有效串联电阻和电感将低于每个单独部件。 因此,如果你能找到一个符合你的温度要求的47uF上限,它可以达到建议的ESR的两倍,只要你放置两倍于100uF部件的建议。 或者你可以去33uF,使用三倍,等等。 - Gabor 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 It is generally OK to replace one large bulk cap with two or more smaller ones if necessary to get caps with the required characteristics. Generally this makes life easier because the effective series resistance and inductance of the combined parts will be lower than for each individual part. So if you can find a good 47uF cap that meets your requirements for temperature, it can have up to twice the recommended ESR as long as you place twice as many of these as the recommendation for 100uF parts. Or you could go to 33uF and use three times as many, etc. -- Gabor |
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有X7S 2.2uF 0402尺寸6.3V或10V电容,可用于每引脚去耦。
它们具有等于较低值0402电容器的高频特性。 使用2.2uF电容而不是0.1或0.47uF有助于减轻(减少)对额外体积(高值)电容的需求。 如果您使用足够的2.2uF电容进行每引脚去耦,则可能根本不需要任何批量去耦电容(取决于您的电路板设计和布局)。 对于大容量电容,建议使用X7S温度系数,以非常合理的成本提供以下一项或多项: 22uF 0805尺寸 47uF 1206尺寸 有33uF 1206尺寸的电容器,但它们的成本不低于47uF 1206尺寸的电容器。 digikey.com和mouser.com都有出色的元件选择工具,可帮助您寻找合适的电容器。 - 鲍勃埃尔金德 签名:新手的自述文件在这里:http://forums.xilinx.com/t5/New-Users-Forum/README-first-Help-for-new-users/td-p/219369总结:1。 阅读手册或用户指南。 你读过手册了吗? 你能找到手册吗?2。 搜索论坛(并搜索网页)以寻找类似的主题。 不要在多个论坛上发布相同的问题。 不要在别人的主题上发布新主题或问题,开始新的主题!5。 学生:复制代码与学习设计不同.6“它不起作用”不是一个可以回答的问题。 提供有用的详细信息(请与网页,数据表链接).7。 您的代码中的评论不需要支付额外费用。 我没有支付论坛帖子的费用。 如果我写一篇好文章,那么我一无所获。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 There are X7S 2.2uF 0402-size 6.3V or 10V capacitors which can be used for per-pin decoupling. These have high-frequency characteristics equal to lower value 0402 capacitors. Using 2.2uF caps instead of 0.1 or 0.47uF helps to mitigate (reduce) the need for additional bulk (high-value) capacitors. If you use enough 2.2uF capacitors for per-pin decoupling, you may not need any bulk decoupling capacitors at all (depending on your board design and layout). For bulk capacitance, suggest one or more of the following, readily available in X7S temperature coefficient, at very reasonable cost:
Both digikey.com and mouser.com have excellent component selection tools to aid your search for suitable capacitors. -- Bob Elkind SIGNATURE: README for newbies is here: http://forums.xilinx.com/t5/New-Users-Forum/README-first-Help-for-new-users/td-p/219369 Summary: 1. Read the manual or user guide. Have you read the manual? Can you find the manual? 2. Search the forums (and search the web) for similar topics. 3. Do not post the same question on multiple forums. 4. Do not post a new topic or question on someone else's thread, start a new thread! 5. Students: Copying code is not the same as learning to design. 6 "It does not work" is not a question which can be answered. Provide useful details (with webpage, datasheet links, please). 7. You are not charged extra fees for comments in your code. 8. I am not paid for forum posts. If I write a good post, then I have been good for nothing. |
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仅供参考:在您的帖子中,您提到“我的卡可能会获得+93 celzius”。
请注意,对于商业级Spartan-6,最高结温为85摄氏度,以便成功运行。 125℃的结温指定是器件不损坏的最大绝对值。 因此,请确保您的卡温度较低,以确保FPGA和电容器的正常运行。设计中的功率降低技术和适当的冷却机制可以帮助实现这一目标。 _______________________________________________如果有助于解决您的查询,请将此帖子标记为“接受为解决方案”。 因此,它将有助于其他论坛用户直接参考答案。如果您认为该信息有用且面向答复,请给予此帖子称赞。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 FYI: In your initial post you mentioned that "my card may get +93 celzius". Please note that for commercial grade Spartan-6 the maximum junction temperature is 85 degree C for successfull functioning. The 125 degree C junction temperature specification is maximum absolute value for device not to damage. So make sure that your card also get lesser temperature to ensure proper operation of FPGA and capacitors.The power reduction techniques in design and proper cooling mechanism can help for that. ________________________________________________ Please mark this post as an "Accept as solution" in case if it helped to resolve your query. So that it will help to other forum users to directly refer to the answer. Give kudos to this post in case if you think the information is useful and reply oriented. |
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