是否允许笔记本电脑供应商锁定除16GB Optane模块以外的所有模块？

BIOS所做的和不支持的是联想的责任。
你应该问他们你的问题。
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What the bios does and does not support is the responsibility of Lenovo.
 
You should ask them your question.
 
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给他们的问题将是非常不同的。
我将询问未来的BIOS更新是否允许安装超过16GB的Optane模块。
我对英特尔的两个问题是：
1.英特尔是否意识到供应商可以在BIOS级别锁定特定的Optane模块？2。
如果英特尔意识到这一点，为什么英特尔允许供应商让英特尔看起来像生产非功能性的Optane模块？
平均新手用户将无法像我一样解决这个问题，并且会得出结论，当英特尔与此无关时，问题是英特尔是什么问题（除非当然这是供应商有特权许可做的事情）。



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The question to them will be very different. I will be asking if future BIOS updates will allow for more than 16GB Optane modules to be installed.
 
My 2 questions to Intel are:
 
1. Is Intel aware that vendors can lock out specific Optane modules at a BIOS level?
2. If Intel is aware of this, why is Intel allowing vendors to make Intel look like it is producing non-functional Optane modules?
 
The average novice user wont be able to troubleshoot this problem the way I have and will conclude that it is Intel that is the problem when Intel literally has nothing to do with this (unless of course this is something vendors have specific permission to do).

我不能代表英特尔，因为我既不是员工也不是承包商。
我知道，除了英特尔，我确信，供应商可以将任何他们想要的内容列入白名单并列入黑名单。
而且，正如我所说，他们的bios是他们的bios。
我确信他们所做的事情背后有一些原因，比如在某个入门级别定位产品，并确保如果你想要更多的东西就付钱。
至于让英特尔看起来很糟糕，他们会一直这样做。
需要像你这样的人来做研究并深入细节。
感谢你这样做。
根据我的经验，联想特别糟糕。
但是，在我看来，它们都在某种程度上。
对于可能不会发生的官方响应，您需要等待其中一位英特尔支持工程师做出响应。
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I cannot speak for Intel, as I am neither an employee or contractor.
 
I know, as well as Intel I am sure, that vendors can whitelist and blacklist whatever they want.  And, as I said, their bios is their bios.  I am certain that there is some reason behind what they do, as in positioning a product at a certain entry level, and making sure you pay if you want something more.
 
As to making Intel look bad, they do it all the time.  It takes someone like you to do the research and go deep into the details.  Kudos to you for doing so.
 
In my experience, Lenovo has been especially bad.  But, also in my opinion, they all are to some degree.
 
For an official response, which may not happen, you need to wait for one of the Intel support engineers to respond.
 
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您好nosirrahx，感谢您联系了英特尔技术支持并告知我们您遇到的问题。我们一直在监控您的社区帖子，我们希望通知您以下信息：•我们不提供支持
作为原始设备制造商（OEM）的第三方平台最适合与他们合作，并由OEM自行决定是否验证更高Optane存储容量的配置。•800P模块（58GB / 118GB）
）系统加速不支持，因为它们是SSD。
目前不支持或保证使用任何加速器。我们希望了解您当前的配置，如果您能向我们提供以下信息，我们将非常感谢：1。
32GB Optane内存模块是使用Intel Optane Memory M10还是Intel Optane内存模块？2。
当您说在RAID模式下联想笔记本电脑中看不到模块（32GB或800P）时，您是说他们根本没有看到BIOS中检测到的模块吗？
即使在RST菜单下？
这意味着您甚至无法将800P用作独立的SSD？3。
如果您将设置更改为AHCI模式，然后尝试将800P用作辅助驱动器（即您有另一个带操作系统的硬盘驱动器，而您只有800P作为数据驱动器），安装了WIn10并且收件箱NVMe，会发生什么情况
驱动程序。
你能看到驱动器吗？4。
您正在使用的RST Windows驱动程序版本以及您正在使用的BIOS中加载了哪些PreOS RST版本（应该在RST菜单下的BIOS中列出）我们期待您的回复。最好的问候，JoshB.Intel®
客户支持技术人员与英特尔公司签订合同



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Hello nosirrahx,
 
Thank you for having contacted Intel Technical Support and for letting us know about the issue that you are experiencing.  
 
We have been monitoring your community post and we would like to let you know the following information:
 
•    We do not provide support for third-party platforms as the original equipment manufacturer (OEM) would be best suited to work with them and is up to the OEM and at their discretion to validate a configuration of higher Optane memory capacity or not.
•    The 800P Modules (58GB/118GB) are not supported for system acceleration as they are SSDs.  Any use as an accelerator is currently not supported or guaranteed to work.
 
We will like to know more about your current configuration and we will highly appreciate if you can provide us with the following information:
 
1.    Are the 32GB Optane memory modules that you are using an Intel Optane Memory M10, or Intel Optane memory modules?
2.    When you say the modules (32GB, or the 800P) are not seen in the Lenovo Laptop in RAID mode, do you mean that they do not see the modules as detected in the BIOS at all?  Even under the RST Menu?  Meaning that you cannot even use the 800P as a standalone SSD?
3.    What happens if you change the settings to AHCI mode and then you try to use the 800P as a secondary drive (i.e. you have another HDD with the OS and you just have the 800P as a data drive), with WIn10 installed and the inbox NVMe driver.  Are you able to see the drive then?
4.    What RST Windows driver version you are using and what PreOS RST Version is loaded in the BIOS you are using (Should be listed in the BIOS under the RST Menu)
 
We will be looking forward to your reply.
 
Best regards,
 
Josh B.
Intel® Customer Support Technician
Under Contract to Intel Corporation
 

1.您使用的是Intel Optane Memory M10或Intel Optane内存模块的32GB Optane内存模块吗？
16GB Optane模块可以工作，我测试的所有模块都是M10，甚至是我的华硕笔记本电脑。
2.当您说在RAID模式下联想笔记本电脑中看不到模块（32GB或800P）时，您是说他们根本没有看到BIOS中检测到的模块吗？
即使在RST菜单下？
这意味着您甚至无法将800P用作独立的SSD？
如果您尝试在BIOS中使用RST以外的任何16GB模块，它将从系统中消失。
如果您没有在BIOS中使用RAID模式，则无论将哪种容量显示为常规SSD，都会使用Optane驱动器。
如果您使用16GB模块（任何16GB Optane模块，它与我试过的3个中的哪一个无关紧要）它们在RST中正确重映射并且Optane缓存软件可以作为预期使用
3.如果您将设置更改为AHCI模式然后您尝试将800P用作辅助驱动器（即您有另一个带有操作系统的硬盘驱动器，并且您只有800P作为数据驱动器），安装了WIn10并且
收件箱NVMe驱动程序。
你能看到驱动器吗？
在AHCI模式下，任何Optane模块都应该出现，它是常规的NVMe SSD。
如果我安装Optane缓存并允许它设置RAID模式，除了16GB模块从系统中消失之外，16GB模块将按预期完成设置。
我想要一个更大的缓存和固定，你可以得到32GB（或更大）的模块。
这在我的华硕笔记本电脑上没有问题，100％的M.2 Optane模块重新映射到RST，Optane可以按预期设置，容量无关紧要。
4.您正在使用的RST Windows驱动程序版本以及您正在使用的BIOS中加载了哪些PreOS RST版本（应该在RST菜单下的BIOS中列出）
15.9.1.3271
BIOS是最新的。
该系统目前设置在16GB模块上，用于Optane缓存。
我在联想论坛上询问了这个问题，他们非常清楚，只支持16GB模块，32GB模块将来不会获得支持。



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1.    Are the 32GB Optane memory modules that you are using an Intel Optane Memory M10, or Intel Optane memory modules?
 
16GB Optane modules work, all of the ones I have tested M10 or otherwise even ones taken from my Asus laptop.
 
2.    When you say the modules (32GB, or the 800P) are not seen in the Lenovo Laptop in RAID mode, do you mean that they do not see the modules as detected in the BIOS at all?  Even under the RST Menu?  Meaning that you cannot even use the 800P as a standalone SSD?
 
If you attempt to use anything other than a 16GB module in RST in BIOS it vanishes from the system. If you are not using RAID mode in BIOS all Optane drives no matter what capacity show up as a regular SSD.
 
If you use a 16GB module (any 16GB Optane module, it literally does not matter which of the 3 I tried) they correctly remap in RST and Optane cache software works as expecte
 
3.    What happens if you change the settings to AHCI mode and then you try to use the 800P as a secondary drive (i.e. you have another HDD with the OS and you just have the 800P as a data drive), with WIn10 installed and the inbox NVMe driver.  Are you able to see the drive then?
 
In AHCI mode any Optane module appears as it should, a regular NVMe SSD. If I install Optane cache and allow it to set RAID mode anything other than he 16GB modules vanish from the system, the 16GB modules complete setup as expected.
 
I want a larger cache and pinning that you get with the 32GB (or larger) modules. This works without issue on my Asus laptop, 100% of M.2 Optane modules remap to RST and Optane can be set up as expected, the capacity is irrelevant.
 
4.    What RST Windows driver version you are using and what PreOS RST Version is loaded in the BIOS you are using (Should be listed in the BIOS under the RST Menu)
 
15.9.1.3271
 
BIOS is up to date.
 
The system is currently setup on a 16GB module for Optane cache.
 
I asked on Lenovo's forum about this issue and they were very clear that only 16GB modules were supported and that 32GB modules will not be gaining support in the future.