请问要安装MPlab X并在这个操作系统下工作需要多少时间？

我正在考虑一旦我的Win 7变得不可用，就使用全Linux。我在Debian上尝试了MPLAB X，它和Windows上工作一样。我注意到的唯一区别是在启动MPLAB X之前需要插入PICkit3。Linux Mint是一个非常好的发行版。



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    I'm thinking about going all-Linux as soon as my Win 7 becomes unusable.
 
I tried MPLAB X on Debian and it works the same as on Windows. The only difference I noticed is that you need to plug in PICkit3 before you start MPLAB X.
 
Linux Mint is a very good distribution to start with.

很高兴听到。我刚试过（从DVD上运行）Ubuntu 16.10只是“路考”，无法打开我的WD网络驱动器。我打开Firefox，搜索如何映射网络驱动器，看到了一些答案。它们看起来很复杂。我在“覆盆子Pi”上做了一些事情，所以它并不是完全迷失方向，但如果他们想使Linux成为主流，他们需要使这些东西变得友好。我必须去看看Debian，因为我对它有点熟悉。你能为你的电脑全日制吗？我在考虑双靴先。什么是Linux造币厂？谢谢你的回复。



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    Good to hear. I just tried (running from DVD)
Ubuntu 16.10 just a "road test", could not open my WD Network Drive.
I opened Firefox and searched how to map a network drive and saw some answers.
They looked complicated. I have done some things on the Raspberry Pi, so it's not
completely at lost but seems if they want to make Linux mainstream, they need to make things like this
user friendly. I will have to look into Debian as I am a little familiar with it. Would you ues it for your computer full time? I am thinking of dual boot at first. What is Linux Mint?
Thanks for the reply. 

Linux Mint是一个非常干净的基于Debian的发行版（我不知道它是直接还是通过Ubuntu）。对我来说，Ubuntu本身看起来很凌乱，而且由于某些原因，它们有从Windows和Mac中拖出最坏情况的坏习惯。要安装Windowsnetwork驱动器，您需要安装samba（如果还没有的话）。它有一个名为“SMBMIT”的程序，它可以让你把网络共享看成是Linux自己的。虽然，你不一定需要挂载它。你可以简单地从文件管理器浏览它，这个项目通常叫做“浏览网络”。我试过DVD的Linux系统，它非常慢。最好的方法是使用一些较旧的电脑。



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    Linux Mint is a very clean distribution based on Debian (I don't know whether it is directly or through Ubuntu). They have bugs fixed and it looks friendly to me. Ubuntu itself looks very messy to me and, for some reason, they have a bad habit of dragging the worst from Windows and Mac.
 
To mount a Windows network drive, you need to install samba (if not already there). It has a program called "smbmount" which lets you mount network shares as if they were Linux's own. Although, you don't necessarily need to mount it. You can simply browse it from your file manager, the item is usually called "Browse network".
 
I tried Linux from DVD and it was unbelievably slow. The best way to try is using some older computer.

LOL，我有一个，但不确定它是否有马力。谢谢，我会调查这些选项。



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LOL, I've got one of them but not sure if it has the horsepower. Thanks I will investigate these options.
Don

我目前运行的是32位的Contos6.8版本，运行在破旧的Athlon 64x2 5200工作站上（像我一样又老又破，但不像我一样古怪），它有2GB的RAM。使用MPLABX版本3.40、XC8版本1.38、XC16版本1.26、Xc32版本1.42。我一直在从各种Windows用户那里阅读信息。我知道，我知道，并不是每个人都有这些问题，事实上，他们中的大多数都可能是自己造成的。我知道很多人除了窗户之外什么都不想。抵抗是徒劳的：你会被同化。我不会试图宣扬，只是陈述我的立场。我的印象是，微芯片Linux支持可能更适合于Ubuntu或其他Debian衍生品（参见脚注），但我已经使用并继续使用Centos，就像我几年来一样，因为我的o的原因。WN。但那是另外一回事。除了（相当近的）微芯片产品之外，这些年来，我还开发了嵌入式飞思卡尔处理器，以及使用Intel IXP（ARM）和来自其他厂商的各种PowerPC、MIPS和ARM处理器进行嵌入式Linux开发。还做了Altera VHDL项目。底线是：我几乎不再打开Windows工作站，除了给别人提供帮助或验证操作。我认为Windows是日落技术，至少对于嵌入式软件开发来说是如此。但也许只有我一个人：我这么说很有趣。至于，DaveFoot.：“Ubuntu”是斯瓦希里语，意思是“不知道如何配置Debian？”



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    I am currently running with 32-bit Centos version 6.8 on a creaky old (old and creaky like me, but not as cranky as me) Athlon 64x2 5200 workstation with 2 GBytes of RAM.
 
Using MPLABX version 3.40, XC8 version 1.38, XC16 version 1.26, Xc32 version 1.42.
 
Have had none of the problems, performance or otherwise that I keep reading about from various Windows users.  I know, I know: Not everyone has those problems, and, in fact, most of them might be self-inflicted.  And I know lots of people who would never consider anything other than Windows.  (Resistance is futile: You will be assimilated.  Or some such thing.)  I mot trying to evangelize, just stating my position.
 
My impression is that Microchip Linux support is probably more fine-tuned to Ubuntu or other Debian derivatives (see Footnote), but I have used, and continue to use Centos, as I have for a number of years, for reasons of my own. But that's another story.
 
In addition to the (fairly recent) Microchip stuff, over the years I have done development for embedded Freescale processors as well as embedded Linux development with Intel IXP (ARM) and various PowerPC, MIPS and ARM processors from other vendors.  Also have done Altera VHDL projects.  All using Linux-based tools supplied by the vendors.
 
Bottom line: I hardly ever even turn on a Windows workstation any more except to give assistance or to verify operation for other people. I consider Windows to be sunset technology, at least for embedded software development.  But maybe that's just me: I'm funny that way.
 
 
Regards,
 
Dave
 
Footnote: Is it true that "Ubuntu" is Swahili for "Can't figure out how to configure Debian?"

所以我从肉桂桌面上看到并运行了DVD Linux薄荷。看起来像UBUTU桌面，但运行速度更快的DVD。我正在考虑尝试安装Windows 10。我有问题…NorthGuy指给我的方向是让它看到我的网络驱动器。我想我可以做到这一点。另一个是哪里可以得到MicroChip说我需要的LinuxMPLab X下载部分中的32位库？安装困难吗？唐



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LOL.
 
So I have looked and ran from the DVD Linux Mint with the Cinnamon Desktop. Looked like the Unbutu desktop but did run faster from the DVD. I am thinking about trying to install along with Windows 10.
Questions I have .. and NorthGuy pointed me in the direction is getting it to see my network drive.
I think I can work though that.
 
The other is where do I get these 32 bit libraries that MicroChip says I need in the Linux MPLab X download section?
Are they hard to install?
Don 

薄荷应该已经有了。对于Debian或Ubuntu：您可能需要更多的库。



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Mint should already have them. For Debian or Ubuntu:
 
#dpkg --add-architecture i386
#apt-get update
#apt-get install libc6:i386
#apt-get install libX11-6:i386

 
You may need more libraries.

你也可以在VM中试用它，例如ValualBox。我在MMT VM上安装了MPLABX来试用它，它对于我尝试过的简单项目来说是很好的。



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    You could also try it out in a VM, e.g. VirtualBox.
 
I installed MPLabX on a Mint VM to try it out, and it worked fine for the simple project I tried.
 

薄荷上默认的MPLAB项目文件夹在哪里？你知道吗？我还没有安装MPLAB，但确实安装了薄荷“队友”。似乎无法让启动菜单工作，我必须击中F12当它启动到薄荷。



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    Where is the default MPlab Project folder on Mint ? Do you know?
I haven't installed MPLab yet, but did install Mint "Mate". Can't seem to get the boot menu to work, I have to hit F12 when it's booting up to get to Mint.

默认情况下，它为用户默认目录中的项目创建了一个文件夹，但我想你可以把它放在任何地方。



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By default it creates a folder for projects in the user's default directory, but I guess you can put it anywhere.

嗨，我想谈谈“LIVE”系统的速度，比如Linux在CD或DVD上的速度。我正在Ubuntu和Debian在USB RAID（2个挂件）上的NATIVE INSTALL（正常，正常）上使用（和实验），它们比所谓的“LIVE”系统（在CD或DVD上）有很多优点。圣，我所说的是正常安装，使用正常安装方法，在RAID上安装，碰巧是在一对USB内存键上，因此，它是100%的系统，就像任何其他系统一样。CD/DVD，并且取决于您想要什么，它的速度是令人满意的……对于一个专业的、日常的、重载的编程来说，我不确定通常的悬垂是否能够胜任这项任务，但是如果您可以使用一对高性能的USB 3.0（三点零）并在其上制作RAID，我相信它会的。表现“有些好”，当然要视需要而定……如果你周围有任何2个旧的USB2.0挂件，我想Debian与LXDE接口可以安装到，低至3GB总RAID之和……我用的是2个USB2.04GB低成本的超级吊坠……我还在试用一个（1）Ubuntu的USB3.0吊坠，因为USB3.0比USB2.0更快，所以我只用了一个，不需要设置RAID……至少现在，我在积累更多的飞行时间。E 2与RAID，因为这是我想要得到更多数据/实验的地方…还将使用更多的3.0设置……图片（链接）是我通常用于Debian和Ubuntu安装的方式（Ubuntu安装程序需要一些命令shell的技巧，Debian安装程序可以在没有任何技巧的情况下完成全部操作）……http://sky.geo..jp/nettozen/img/USBian-slim.jpgFor Debian，usu安装CD/DVD时，选择“高级安装”（普通安装也可以），因为在安装结束时，最好将引导加载程序（GRUB）安装在两个FAT分区上，这样任何一个挂件都可以启动系统。像往常一样，“交换”分区不是强制性的，但是最好有一个分区来防止“低内存问题”……如果需要的话，我为每个FAT分区使用250MB与其他系统交换文件，但是，任何大小都可以，它们都用于从挂起“托管”引导过程。我将准备一个教程网站，介绍如何安装，以及我正在进行的测试/使用的一些细节……我认为USBian和USBuntu代表了学习/尝试/使用的又一个Linux选项……事实上，稍微超出了“USB本地安装”的主题，我确信我们有了一个新的浪潮关于GNU/Linux系统的可能性，我正在编译关于Lithux的通用名称（主题）的信息（意思是：由Linuxes/Unixes构成的块）……我已经在这里有了第一个版本（不是很多）：http://ww13.plala.or.jp/pskitty/LithuxLithus.html但是仍然需要知道如何操作教程还没有……无论如何，我确信，我们都将使用LITUX进行编码……和其他事情……也许，用UB3.0 RAID和一些“好”的边框，我们可以开始思考没有硬盘（HDD/SSD）系统……希望……问候，瓦尔特。



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Hi, just want to say something about speed of "LIVE" systems such as Linux on CD or DVD.
 
I am using (and experimenting things) on a NATIVE INSTALL (normal, usual) of Debian and Also Ubuntu on a USB RAID (2 pendrives), and they have many advantages over the so called "LIVE" systems (on CD or DVD).
 
First, what I am talking is a NORMAL installation, using the NORMAL method of install, on a RAID, that happens to be on a pair of USB memory keys, so, it is a 100% system, like any other.
 
Second, I am doing mostly of the experimentation on old USB 2.0 (two dot zero), and even so, it behaves faster than CD/DVD and, depending on what you want from it, its speed is satisfactory...
 
For a professional, everyday, heavy load programming, I am not sure if the usual pendrive are up to the task, but if you can use a pair of high performance USB 3.0 (three dot zero) and make a RAID on it, I believe it will behave "somewhat good", depending of course on the demand...
 
If you have any 2 old USB2.0 pendrive around, I think Debian with LXDE interface can install to, as low as 3GB total of the sum of the RAID... I am using 2 USB2.0 4GB low cost Transcend pendrives...
 
I am also experimenting with just ONE (1) USB3.0 pendrive with Ubuntu, since USB3.0 is most faster than the USB2.0, I am just using one and there is no need of RAID setup...
At least for the moment, I am accumulating more "hours of flight" on the 2.0 with RAID, because this is where I want to get more data/experiments... will use more the 3.0 setup as well...
 
The picture (link) here is how I usually do for Debian and Ubuntu installs (Ubuntu installer requires a little trick with command shell, Debian installer can do it full without any trick)...

http://sky.geocities.jp/nettozen/img/USBian-slim.jpg
 
For Debian, the usual install CD/DVD, choose “advanced install” (normal install also works), because at the end of the install, it is good to install the bootloader (GRUB) on the 2 FAT partitions, so that any one of the pendrives can boot-up the system. As usual, the “swap” partition is not mandatory, but it is good to have one to prevent “low memory problems”…
I am using 250MB for each FAT partition to exchange files with other systems if needed, but, ANY size will be OK, they are used to “host” the boot process from the pendrive.
 
I will prepare a tutorial website showing how to install, and some details on the testing/usage I am doing… I think the USBian and USBuntu represents one more Linux Option to learn/try/use…
In fact, going a little bit beyond the “USB Native Install” topic, I am convinced that we have a new wave of possibilities for GNU/Linux Systems, and I am compiling information that will be placed on the general name (subject) of Lithux (which means: Blocks Made of Linuxes/Unixes)…
I have already a first version here (not so much):
http://www13.plala.or.jp/pskitty/LithuxLithus.html
But still, the howto tutorial is NOT there yet...
 
Anyway, I am convinced that, we are ALL going to use LITHUX for coding… and other things…
 
Perhaps, with USB3.0 with RAID and some “good” pendrives we can start to think about NO HARD DISK (HDD/SSD) SYSTEMS… hope so…
 
Regards,
Valter

我自己一直在运行Linux。MPLAB X安装非常简单，运行速度相当快。



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    Been running Linux myself for a long time.  MPLAB X is pretty simple to install and runs pretty quick.

在Ubuntu中也适用于我。记住，当你从DVD运行时，你基本上是使用只读文件系统。您可以写入的唯一存储是RAM或另一个已安装在其上的OS的驱动器。从DVD引导真的是让你试用它，而不是打算用作你的正常操作介质。我的整个Linux，包括MPLABX在内的所有应用程序都在USB棒上运行，所以我可以拔掉它并随身携带。任何能从USB驱动器启动的机器都会让我使用它。将整个操作系统和存储设备安装在一根木棒上有点棘手，但我发现最简单的方法是使用主机PC，物理上拔出硬盘驱动器，这样它就不能尝试在任何地方安装引导加载程序，在插座中插入一个空白格式化的USB棒，然后从DVD引导并完成一个完整的安装。用32GB的USB棒，它运行速度比Windows too.布莱恩。



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    Works fine in Ubuntu for me too.
 
Do bear in mind that when you run from DVD you are essentially using a read-only file system. The only storage you can write to is RAM or another mounted drive with an OS already on it.  Booting from DVD is really to let you try it out and not intended to be used as your normal operating media.
 
My entire Linux, with all applications including MPLABX runs on a USB stick so I can unplug it and carry it with me. Any machine that can boot from a USB drive will let me use it. It is a little tricky to install the entire OS and storage on one stick but the way I've found easiest is to use a host PC, physically unplug the hard drives so it can't try to install a boot loader anywhere else, plug a blank formatted USB stick in a socket, then boot from DVD and do a full install.  With a 32GB USB stick it runs faster than Windows too.
 
Brian.

嘿，伙计们，我已经安装了MPlabX，但是很难弄清楚如何运行安装程序。有些方法，我甚至不记得（我肯定会后悔）。现在我需要安装XC8、XC16和XC32。已经下载了Linux版本，但是againcan不知道如何开始安装这些版本。这里有人能帮我吗？我猜代码配置器可以通过MPLAB X安装吗？有一段时间访问我的网络驱动器…仍然不知道如何从那里打开文档，应用程序似乎不想导航到它们。在我通过“文件浏览器”访问它们之后，在我的桌面上有一个“书签”。在这方面的任何帮助都将非常感谢。



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    Hey Guys, I've got MPlabX installed, but had a hard time figuring out how to run the installer.
Some how, I don't even remember (which I'm sure I'll regret).
Now I need to install XC8, XC16 and XC32. Have downloaded the Linux versions, but again
can't figure out how to start  the installs for these.
Can some one help me here?
I'm guessing Code Configurator can be installed thru MPLab X??
 
Had a heck of a time getting access to my Network drive... still don't know how to open a document from there, the apps don't seem to want to navigate to them.
There is a 'bookmark' on my desktop after I access them through "File Browser".
Any help in this area would be also greatly appreciated.
Don

要运行安装程序，需要更改权限以允许执行。我想你可以通过右击文件来完成。完成此操作后，只需双击它，应用程序就无法打开Windows文件。SMB://是一个URL（与HTTP://相同），您不会期望应用程序打开HTTP://URL作为文件，是吗？为了使文件能够访问应用程序，首先需要安装“SMBAMT”远程驱动程序。然后，它将作为文件树中的路径出现。



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    To run the installer you need to change the permissions to allow the execution. I guess you can do it by right-clicking the file. Once this is done, just double-click it.
 
Applications cannot open the Windows files. smb:// is a URL (same as http://) You wouldn't expect apps to open http:// URLs as files, would you? To make the files accessible to the apps, you need to mount the remote drive with "smbmount" first. Then, it'll appear as a path in the file tree.
 

好的，我更改了权限，然后单击一个复选框，上面写着“允许执行文件作为程序”。只需要打开终端窗口，键入“sudo”，然后将安装程序文件拖到终端窗口。好的，我如何运行“smbmount”？对不起，努比的问题。



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OK, I changed permissions and click a check box that said "Allow executing file as program".
Just needed to also open Terminal Window, type 'sudo' then drag installer file into Terminal window.



OK, how do I run "smbmount"? Sorry for the nubie questions.
Don

我认为大多数事情都是从命令控制台窗口运行的。



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    I think most of these things are run from a command console window.

如果我右键点击书桌上的书签…有一个菜单项要卸载。所以我很困惑，如果我还需要“挂载”这个还是我做错了什么？我不会放弃Linux我不会放弃Linux。我不会放弃Linux。…



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    If I right click on the bookmarks on my desktop .. there is an menu item to 'unmount'.
So I am confused as to if I need to still 'mount' this or am I doing something else wrong??
 
I will not give up on Linux .. I will not give up on Linux .. I will not give up on Linux .. ....

正如QHB所说，您需要从终端运行它并提供一些参数。您可能需要下载abs安装包。如果您认为它已经安装，请查看/mnt或/media，看看它是否存在。



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As QHB said, you need to run it from the terminal and supply quite a few parameters.
 
You may need to download abs install the package for that.
 
If you think it's already mounted, look under /mnt or /media and see if it's there.