用汇编语言学习汇编最好的芯片是什么？

Goigum教程为基础和中档图片。开始教程是免费的，并有一个良好的开端。



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    Gooligum Tutorials for base and mid-range PICs.
 
The beginning tutorials are free, and a good start.

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在这个页面上，HTTP://www. MyCHIP.COM/DealthOrthsStudio/StudioDeLiel.ASPX？PartNO=pg164120PICkit 2初学者工具包，它使用PIC16F690，它应该类似于其他PIC16 seriesorhttp://www..hip.com/Developmenttools/ProductDetails.aspx？PotoNO＝DV164130，它具有PIC18实例



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    at this page, http://www.microchip.com/DevelopmentTools/ProductDetails.aspx?PartNO=pg164120
 
PICkit 2 Starter Kit Lessons, it's using PIC16F690, it should be similar to the other PIC16 series
 
or http://www.microchip.com/Developmenttools/ProductDetails.aspx?PartNO=DV164130  it has PIC18 examples

不要担心具体的PIC，大多数教程在当前的微芯片阵容方面有点过时，尤其是书籍。了解您找到的任何教程，选择对步骤有良好解释的教程，了解概念。PIC之间的差异可以从数据中找到问候。阅读教程时，手头总是有相关的数据表，所以您就可以了解硬件并将编码与它联系起来。无论如何，PIC的有效能力在于它的外围设备，而且大多数PIC在8位范围内非常相似。至于ASM指令，它们是相同的f或者说PIC12和PIC16家族，PIC18与12/16以及更多的PIC相同。我发现在很多方面非常有用的PIC之一是PIC16F1827，它有很多外围设备，所以您可以一个接一个地了解它们，而不必长时间地移动到另一个PIC。你个人观点，其他人有他们自己的观点，由于种种原因，每个人都有自己的偏好。试着复习一下gooligum教程，这些例子解释得很好，数据表中有很多参考资料，这样你就可以习惯了。你不需要使用他们的硬件。第一个教程是免费的。上次我看的时候，自由的人比你更能让你开始。



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    Hi
 
Don't worry about a specific PIC, most tutorials are a bit outdated in terms of the current Microchip lineup, in special the books.
Get to understand any tutorial you find, select the ones with a good explanation of the steps, get the concepts.
The differences between PICs can be found in the datasheets. Allways have the relevant datasheet at hand when reviewing a tutorial, so you get to know the hardware and relate the coding to it.
Anyhow, the efective power of a PIC lies in its peripherals, and most of them are very similar all over the 8 bit range.
As for the ASM instructions, they are the same for the PIC12 and PIC16 families, the PIC18 has the same as the 12/16 and a few more.
 
One of the PICs I find very usefull in a number of ways is the PIC16F1827, it has plenty of peripherals so you can get to know them one by one without having to move to another PIC for a long time.
But this is only my personal opinion, others have their own, and for one reason or another, everybody has its own prefered one.
 
Try a review of the  gooligum tutorials, the samples are well explained and there are plenty of references to the datasheets, so you can get used to them.
You don't need to use their hardware and the first tutorials are free. Last time I looked, the free ones were more than enought to get you started.
 
 
 
HIH
 
Best regards
Jorge

唯一的问题是PIC16F690正在调试。那需要一个调试头。



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The Only Issue is the PIC16F690 is debugging. That one needs a debug header.

开发者SPIC16C58可以用好奇8位板编程吗？谢谢！



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    Developers
 
PIC16C58
 
Can this chip be programmed with Curiosity 8 bit board?
 
Thanks!

不，所有PICXCXXX芯片都不是用户可编程的。



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    No. All PICxxCxx chips are not user programmable.

你好，我确信在“C”系列中有用户可编程的PIC。我用“PIC16C54A”完成了我的第一个PIC项目。早在90年代后半期，PIC16Cxx仍处于正常运行状态。PIC16Cxx存在于EPROM版本（不是EEPROM）中的“cerdip”软件包（有窗口），用户可编程（Picstart）和UV擦除。仍然有橡皮擦。回到OP。任何PIC16Cxxxx都是博物馆派品。ce，不要浪费时间。从PIC16F1xxxx系列中获取任何东西。否则您将从过去开始。任何问题，您都可以在微芯片论坛上问。



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    Hi

I'm pretty sure there are user-programable PICs in the "C" series.
I made my first PIC project with the "PIC16C54A". Its been back in the second half of the '90s but its still in regular operation.
The PIC16Cxx existed in EPROM versions (not EEPROM) in "cerdip" packages (windowed), that were user programmable (Picstart) and UV erasable.
Still have the eraser laying around.
 
Back to the OP.
Any PIC16Cxx is a museum piece, don't waste your time with it.
Get anything from the PIC16F1xxx range.
Otherwise you will be starting in the past.
 
Any problem, you can allways ask in the Microchip forums.
 
BTW: I don't know the curiosity, but I wouldn't expect it to be able to program such an old chip.
 
 
Best regards
Jorge

是的，当然，这些所谓的“一次性可编程”的芯片是用户可编程的。用PIC16C74开始1997/1998，几年后用PIC16C765带USB。为了开发，已经使用了UV可擦除陶瓷蘸料，但是即使是普通塑料DIP封装也被重新编程。以前没有用过的记忆。快乐，这些日子已经过去了；



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Yes, of course these so called "one time programmable" chips have been user programmable.
 
Started 1997/1998 with pic16c74 and a few years later with pic16c765 with USB.
For development the UV-erasable ceramic dips have been used, but even the normal
plastic dip packages have been re-programmable using the formerly unused memory.
 
Happy, these days are gone ;-)

DeVelopop'57或58是与基本印章兼容的PIN，可以在汇编程序中编程，看看它是如何运行实验的。谢谢！



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    Deverlopers
 
'57 or '58 is pin compatible with Basic Stamp.
 
Could program it in Assembler and see how it runs experiments.
 
Thanks!

你的观点是什么？正如已经说过的，PIC16C57和PIC16C58是古老的装置。不要把时间浪费在他们身上。



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    What's your point?
As already stated PIC16C57 and PIC16C58 are ancient devices. Don't waste your time with them.
 

Hi随着PPS芯片的发展，“引脚兼容”是一个非常广泛的概念。



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    Hi
 
With the more recent chips featuring PPS, "pin compatible" is a very wide concept.
 
 
 
Best regards
Jorge
 
 

参见“Started Out”类别。从简单的设备plus开始，这是常识，我可以联系到Stamp。不会丢掉所有的经验。谢谢！



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    qhb
 
See the 'Started Out' category.
 
It's common wisdom to start with simple device plus
 
I can relate to Stamp.
 
Not going to throw away all that experience.
 
Thanks!

HiPin的兼容性与硬件和操作相似性无关。至于“丢掉经验”，请再想一想。我从大学开始使用i8085和i8051微电脑，30多年后，这种经验仍然适合我使用与那些微电脑几乎没有共同点的现代微电脑。你确实提到过“学习”的意思。所以，“学习”是第一位的，当你有知识时，要寻找相似性和/或相容性。只有我的2美分……最好的问候乔治



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    Hi
 
Pin compatibility as nothing to do with hardware and operation similarity.
 
As for "throwing away experience", think again.
I started at university with i8085 and i8051 micros and more than 30 years later, that experience still serves me using modern micros that have very little in common with those ones.
 
You did mention that the intention is "learning".
So, "learn" first and look for similarity and/or compatibility when you have the knowledge for it.
 
 
Just my 2 cents....
 
Best regards
Jorge
 

完全正确。不管你使用什么，你仍然学习相同的基本东西。



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Absolutely right. No matter what you use, you still learn the same fundamental things.
 

DevelopersOkay。将使用好奇板。它带有16xx，我想。保持PIC16C56和PIC16C57虽然作为副项目。谢谢！



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    Developers
 
Okay. Will use Curiosity Board.
 
It comes with a 16xx I think.
 
Keeping PIC16C56 and PIC16C57 as side project though.
 
Thanks!

C芯片的问题是OTP（一次性可编程）或UV窗口擦除。它们没有内置的调试器。他们需要一个ICE来调试。他们可能需要一个PICStart Plus，PM2或PM3来编程。一些是燃煤和曲柄启动。更新的PIC将更容易和更便宜的学习。



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    Your trouble with the C chips is they are either OTP (one Time Programmable) or UV Window Erase.  They Do not have Built in Debuggers. They Require an ICE to debug.
They Probably require a PICStart Plus, PM2 or PM3 to program. 
Some are Coal Fired and Crank Start.
 
Newer PICs will be a lot easier and cheaper to learn on.

HiYes，回首大约20年，它有时看起来是这样。



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    Hi
 

Yes, looking back some 20 years, it sometimes looks like that. LoL:
 
Best regards
Jorge
 

我们正在寻找与视差印章1或2的引脚兼容性。所以我们可以用印章和PBASIC作为原型，然后用汇编程序编程的PIC代替芯片。我想现在非闪存可编程16C已经过时了。移到16F，只要是相同的引脚数，我们就称之为好。谢谢！



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Developers
 
We're looking for pin compatibility with a Parallax Stamp 1 or 2.
 
So we can prototype with Stamp and PBASIC then
 
replace chip with PIC programmed in Assembler.
 
I think the non flash programmable 16C is out for now.
 
Move on up to a 16F and long as it's same pin COUNT we'll
 
call it good.
 
Thanks!