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嗨,我已经配置了8753ES Opt 011(无测试装置)作为高功率网络分析仪。
请参阅附件中的配置。 当使用三项校正模型校准S11时,我发现我在校准基板上炸毁了我的负载标准。 我已将校准功率设置为5 dBm,这些电阻规格为0.25 W(24 dBm)。 然后我用功率传感器替换探头1,看到功率确实是5 dBm,但我看到每个频率扫描开始时出现尖峰。 在短时间内,功率跃升至32 dBm。 我在http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5966-3319E.pdf上阅读了优秀的应用笔记AN 1287-6。 第10页讨论了在源预调校准期间分析仪功率可能会出现峰值的一些情况。 这似乎是正在发生的事情,并在校准和测量过程中引起功率峰值。 我尝试在服务菜单中关闭PLL自动调谐,但我仍然看到功率峰值。 我想尝试使用频率偏移模式的第二个建议,但我不确定这需要什么。 这需要第二个信号发生器吗? 我应该尝试哪些其他途径? 我甚至愿意购买一个新的VNA,但我不确定这些是否会阻止破坏性的尖峰。 我也渴望快速进行一些测量。 我能做些什么来防止我手边的设备出现电源尖峰? 谢谢Steve Ortiz 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hi, I've configured a 8753ES Opt 011 (No test set) to be a high power network analyzer. Please see my configuration in the attached file. When calibrating S11 with a three term correction model I found I was blowing up my load standards on the calibration substrate. I had set the calibration power to 5 dBm and these resistors are spec'd to handle 0.25 W (24 dBm). I then replaced Probe 1 with the power sensor and see the power is indeed 5 dBm, but I see spikes at the beginning of each frequency sweep. For a short time, the power jumps up to 32 dBm. I read the excellent application note AN 1287-6 at: http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5966-3319E.pdf. Page 10 discusses some cases where the power of the analyzer may spike during the source pre-tune calibration. It seems this is what is happening and causing power spikes during the calibration and measurement. I tried turing off the PLL Auto tune in the service menu, but I still see the power spikes. I'd like to try the second suggestion, using frequency-offset mode, but I'm unsure what this requires. Does this require a second signal generator? What other paths should I try? I'm even willing to purchase a new VNA, but I'm unsure these will prevent the damaging spikes. I'm also eager to get some measurements quickly. Is there something I can do to prevent the power spikes with the equipment I have on hand? Thanks, Steve Ortiz 附件
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如果功率放大器是频带限制的,那么当源扫描出频带时,源可能会失去锁相,如果它失去锁相,则它会在尝试重新锁定时改变功率。
您可能会尝试将宽带路径与放大器并联; 分离源信号,将其发送到放大器,然后在(可能使用耦合器)之后进行组合,以便辅助路径覆盖整个频率范围。 我们较新的分析仪不需要这个(不需要通过接收器锁相),并且它们有很多保护措施来防止这些问题。 最新的是RF PNA-X,覆盖高达8.5 GHz。 该功能的价格相当合理,专为高功率有源器件测试而设计。 当然,它会比你8753(现在我估计大约16岁)更贵。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 If the power amplifier is band limited, then the source can lose phase-lock as the source sweeps out of the band, and if it loses phase lock then it can change power as it tries to re-lock. you might try to put a broadband path in parallel with the amplifier; split the source signal, send one to the amplifier and then combine after (maybe using a coupler) so that the aux path covers the whole frequency range. Our newer analyzer don't require this (phase lock through the receiver isn't needed) and they have lots of protections against such problems. The latest is the RF PNA-X that covers up to 8.5 GHz. The price is pretty reasonable for the capability, and it is specifically designed for high power active device test. Of course, it will be more expensive then you 8753 (which is about 16 years old now I would guess). |
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脑洞大赛9 发表于 2019-2-21 12:04 谢谢,乔尔博士。 我打算订购PNA-X。 与此同时,我不确定你提出的配置。 我将参考接收器从源端口(功率放大器之前)移出电阻分压器。 当我改变功率时,这不校准我的放大器增益变化,但使参考接收器覆盖整个频率范围。 我仍然看到每次扫描开始时的功率跳跃,所以我的问题是,哪个接收器需要整个频率范围路径进行锁相? 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Thanks, Dr. Joel. I'll plan on ordering the PNA-X. In the meantime, I'm unsure of the configuration you've proposed. I moved the reference receiver to come off a resistive divider just out of the source port (before the power amplifier). This doesn't calibrate my amplifier gain change as I change power, but makes the reference receiver cover the entire frequency range. I still see the power jumps at the beginning of each sweep, so my question is, which receiver(s) need the whole frequency range path for phase lock? |
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听起来你有正确的设置。 这是第一次测试。 第二个问题是,您的测量仅在3 GHz以下,或者它是否跨越3 GHz。 3 GHz处的频段切换点会导致功率峰值。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Sounds like you have the correct setup. This was the first tests. A second quesion, is your measurement only below 3 GHz, or does it cross 3 GHz. There is a band switch point at 3 GHz that will cause power spikes. |
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我的测量结果不超过3 GHz,扫描范围为2.5 GHz至2.8 GHz。 在服务菜单中,我可以打开PLL诊断,我在Pretune和Acquire阶段看到,在每次扫描开始时,系统中的功率会上升约25 dB,达到放大器的最大功率。 然后,在跟踪阶段,功率被校准。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 My measurement does not cross 3 GHz, the sweep is from 2.5 GHz to 2.8 GHz. In the service menu, I can turn on PLL diagnostics and I see during the Pretune and Acquire phases, at the beginning of each sweep, the power in my system jumps up by about 25 dB to the maximum power of the amplifier. Then, during the Track phase, the power is calibrated. |
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Dipper123321321 发表于 2019-2-21 12:48 在这种情况下,我认为可能没有任何事可做。 我们已经了解了很多关于非标准测量的知识,并在新的分析仪中融入了很多灵活性。 较旧的分析仪更受限制。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 I think there might not be anything to do for this, in such a case. We have learned a lot about non-standard measurements and incorporated a lot of flexibility in newer analyzers. Older analyzers were more limited. |
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