什么样的事件可能导致标准负载变得过时？

Kirby博士，中心销的突出部分通常是由于外平面上的磨损。
当镀金磨损时尤其明显。
旧校准套件中的常见问题。
手册中标准的系数如下：短：延迟16.695 ps。
开路：C0 53 x 10 E-15 C1 150 x 10 E-17 f / Hz C2 0 x 10 E-36 f / Hz C3 0 x 10 E-45 f / Hz 14.491 ps延迟。
戴夫



     以下为原文

  Dr. Kirby,

The protrusion of the center pin is generally due to wear on the outer plane.  Especially noticeable when the gold plating is worn off.  Common problem in older calibration kits.

The coefficients of the standards in the manual are as follows:

Short:  16.695 ps delay.

Open: C0  53  x 10 E-15
          C1 150 x 10 E-17 f/Hz
          C2  0    x 10 E-36 f/Hz
          C3  0    x 10 E-45 f/Hz
          14.491 ps delay.

Dave

> {quote：title = dhamilton写道：} {quote}> Kirby博士，Hi Dave>中心销的突出部分通常是由于外层磨损造成的。
当镀金磨损时尤其明显。
旧校准套件中的常见问题。
谢谢你。
是的，仔细观察我可以看到金色在外部参考平面上有点磨损。
我不考虑外移的可能性，但是中心已经移动了。
但看起来我看到中心的金色是完美的，而外导体配合平面上有明显的磨损。
>手册中标准的系数如下：是否有该手册的电子版？
如果是这样，我会欣赏一个副​​本，虽然系数是我想要的主要内容。
>短：延迟16.695 ps。
>>打开：C0 53 x 10 E-15> C1 150 x 10 E-17 f / Hz> C2 0 x 10 E-36 f / Hz> C3 0 x 10 E-45 f / Hz> 14.491 ps延迟。
>> Dave这很有帮助。
我可以看到偏移延迟与当前套件非常不同（简称为31.798 ps，打开时为29.243 ps）。
这也证实了我怀疑这个套件中的男性短裤（由Radiall制造）不是原创的。
它在参考平面处短路，因此偏移延迟为零。
我建议他从安捷伦那里购买85033E，因为这个套件有太多的不足之处，甚至值得尝试恢复它。
但如果有手册的电子版本，我会有兴趣看到它。
我询问了惠普/安捷伦雅虎集团，有人说他们是+“这本手册似乎有点不公平...... !!”*如果我很幸运，我的回复会出现一次*如果我运气不好它不会
出现了。
*如果我非常不走运，它会出现多次。
戴夫



     以下为原文

  > {quote:title=dhamilton wrote:}{quote}
> Dr. Kirby,

Hi Dave 

> The protrusion of the center pin is generally due to wear on the outer plane.  Especially noticeable when the gold plating is worn off.  Common problem in older calibration kits.

Thank you for that. Yes, looking carefully I can see the gold has worn away somewhat on the outer reference plane. I'd not considered the possibility of the outer moving, but though the centre had moved. But looking I see the gold on the centre is in tact, whereas there is obvious wear on the outer conductor mating plane. 

> The coefficients of the standards in the manual are as follows:

Is there an electronic copy of that manual around? If so, I'd appreciate a copy, though the coefficients are the main thing I wanted. 

> Short:  16.695 ps delay.
> 
> Open: C0  53  x 10 E-15
>           C1 150 x 10 E-17 f/Hz
>           C2  0    x 10 E-36 f/Hz
>           C3  0    x 10 E-45 f/Hz
>           14.491 ps delay.
> 
> Dave

That is helpful. I can see the offset delay is very different to the current kits (31.798 ps for short, 29.243 ps for open).  It also confirms my suspicion that the male short (made by Radiall) in this kit , is not original. It shorts at the reference plane, so has an offset delay of zero. 

I'll suggest he buys an 85033E from Agilent, as there are too many things wrong with this kit to make it even worthwhile trying to restore it. But if there is an electronic copy of the manual around, I'd be interested in seeing it. I asked on the HP/Agilent Yahoo group, and someone said they were +"the manual seems to be kinda unobtainium...!!"+

* If I'm lucky my response will appear once
* If I'm unlucky it wont appear at all.
* If I'm very unlucky, it will appear multiple times. 

Dave

Kirby博士，中心销的突出部分通常是由于外平面上的磨损。
当镀金磨损时尤其明显。
旧校准套件中的常见问题。
手册中标准的系数如下：短：延迟16.695 ps。
开路：C0 53 x 10 E-15 C1 150 x 10 E-17 f / Hz C2 0 x 10 E-36 f / Hz C3 0 x 10 E-45 f / Hz 14.491 ps延迟。
戴夫



     以下为原文

  Dr. Kirby,

The protrusion of the center pin is generally due to wear on the outer plane.  Especially noticeable when the gold plating is worn off.  Common problem in older calibration kits.

The coefficients of the standards in the manual are as follows:

Short:  16.695 ps delay.

Open: C0  53  x 10 E-15
          C1 150 x 10 E-17 f/Hz
          C2  0    x 10 E-36 f/Hz
          C3  0    x 10 E-45 f/Hz
          14.491 ps delay.

Dave

Kirby博士，中心销的突出部分通常是由于外平面上的磨损。
当镀金磨损时尤其明显。
旧校准套件中的常见问题。
手册中标准的系数如下：短：16.695 pS延迟。
打开：C0 53 x 10 E-15 C1 150 x 10 E-17 f / Hz C2 0 x 10 E-36 f / Hz C3 0 x 10 E-45 f / Hz 14.491 pS延迟。
负载：> 40 dB DC - 1.3 GHz，> 35 dB 1.3 - 3 GHz：23C +/- 5 Dave



     以下为原文

  Dr. Kirby,
 
The protrusion of the center pin is generally due to wear on the outer plane.  Especially noticeable when the gold plating is worn off.  Common problem in older calibration kits.
 
The coefficients of the standards in the manual are as follows:
 
Short:  16.695 pS delay.
 
Open: C0  53  x 10 E-15
          C1 150 x 10 E-17 f/Hz
          C2  0    x 10 E-36 f/Hz
          C3  0    x 10 E-45 f/Hz
          14.491 pS delay.

Load: >40 dB DC - 1.3 GHz, > 35 dB 1.3 - 3 GHz: 23C +/- 5

Dave

Kirby博士，中心销的突出部分通常是由于外平面上的磨损。
当镀金磨损时尤其明显。
旧校准套件中的常见问题。
手册中标准的系数如下：短：延迟16.695 ps。
开路：C0 53 x 10 E-15 C1 150 x 10 E-17 f / Hz C2 0 x 10 E-36 f / Hz C3 0 x 10 E-45 f / Hz 14.491 ps延迟。
戴夫



     以下为原文

  Dr. Kirby,

The protrusion of the center pin is generally due to wear on the outer plane.  Especially noticeable when the gold plating is worn off.  Common problem in older calibration kits.

The coefficients of the standards in the manual are as follows:

Short:  16.695 ps delay.

Open: C0  53  x 10 E-15
          C1 150 x 10 E-17 f/Hz
          C2  0    x 10 E-36 f/Hz
          C3  0    x 10 E-45 f/Hz
          14.491 ps delay.

Dave

这是一个测试论坛。
请忽略。



     以下为原文

  This is a test forum. Please ignore.

Kirby博士，中心销的突出部分通常是由于外平面上的磨损。
当镀金磨损时尤其明显。
旧校准套件中的常见问题。
手册中标准的系数如下：短：16.695 pS延迟。
打开：C0 53 x 10 E-15 C1 150 x 10 E-17 f / Hz C2 0 x 10 E-36 f / Hz C3 0 x 10 E-45 f / Hz 14.491 pS延迟。
负载：> 40 dB DC - 1.3 GHz，> 35 dB 1.3 - 3 GHz @ 23C +/- 5 Dave



     以下为原文

  Dr. Kirby,
 
The protrusion of the center pin is generally due to wear on the outer plane.  Especially noticeable when the gold plating is worn off.  Common problem in older calibration kits.
 
The coefficients of the standards in the manual are as follows:
 
Short:  16.695 pS delay.
 
Open: C0  53  x 10 E-15
          C1 150 x 10 E-17 f/Hz
          C2  0    x 10 E-36 f/Hz
          C3  0    x 10 E-45 f/Hz
          14.491 pS delay.
 
Load: > 40 dB DC - 1.3 GHz, >35 dB 1.3 - 3 GHz @ 23C +/- 5

Dave

> {quote：title = dhamilton写道：} {quote}> Kirby博士，>>>中心销的突出部分通常是由于外层磨损造成的。
当镀金磨损时尤其明显。
旧校准套件中的常见问题。
谢谢。
仔细观察后，我发现情况确实如此。
我很想用连接器保护器来测试这个，我知道衰退（大约0.0005）大于这个负载的模型，但是看了外导体配合平面的状况，我甚至都不会这样做。
>手册中标准的系数如下：>>短：16.695 pS延迟。
>>打开：C0 53 x 10 E-15> C1 150 x 10 E-17 f / Hz我假设你的意思是E ^ -27，而不是E ^ -17。
> C2 0 x 10 E-36 f / Hz> C3 0 x 10 E-45 f / Hz> 14.491 pS延迟。
谢谢，这是最有帮助的。
这证实了我怀疑由Radiall制造的这个套件中的男性短裤不是原始的，因为它在参考平面处短路，因此偏移延迟为0.此外，偏移量与当前套件有很大不同，因此
人们需要将其定义为用户校准。
>负载：> 40 dB DC - 1.3 GHz，> 35 dB 1.3 - 3 GHz @ 23C +/- 5 Great。
我建议这个人从安捷伦购买一台85033E，因为该套件存在太多错误，无法恢复。
是否有电子版的手册？
我有兴趣看到它，但不要担心，如果它太麻烦，因为你给了我最重要的东西。
> Dave Dave编辑：drkirkby于2013年10月30日下午6:29



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  > {quote:title=dhamilton wrote:}{quote}
> Dr. Kirby,
>  
> The protrusion of the center pin is generally due to wear on the outer plane.  Especially noticeable when the gold plating is worn off.  Common problem in older calibration kits.

Thank you. On closer inspection I see this is indeed the case. I was tempted to test this using a connector saver where I know the recession (about 0.0005) is  greater than the protusion of this load, but having looked at the condition of the outer conductor mating plane, I will not even do that. 

> The coefficients of the standards in the manual are as follows:
>  
> Short:  16.695 pS delay.
>  
> Open: C0  53  x 10 E-15
>           C1 150 x 10 E-17 f/Hz

I assume you mean E^-27, not E^-17.

>           C2  0    x 10 E-36 f/Hz
>           C3  0    x 10 E-45 f/Hz
>           14.491 pS delay.

Thank you, that is most helpful. It confirms my suspicion that the male short in this kit, which is made by Radiall, is not original, since it shorts at the reference plane, so has an offset delay of 0. 

Also, the offsets are dramatically different from current kits, so one would need to define it as a user calibration. 

> Load: > 40 dB DC - 1.3 GHz, >35 dB 1.3 - 3 GHz @ 23C +/- 5

Great. 

I will suggest this person buy an 85033E from Agilent, as there are far too much wrong with the kit to make it sensible to restore. 

Is there an electronic copy of the manual available? I'd be interested to see it, but don't worry if it is too much trouble, as you have givem me the most important things. 

> Dave

Dave

Edited by: drkirkby on Oct 30, 2013 6:29 PM