我们应该希望长期使用stm8吗？

在免费工具链中进行可视化调试的工作正在进行中。
现在，已经有了
https://stm8-binutils-gdb.sourceforge.io/
 这允许从Eclipse IDE进行目标调试。有一些问题，最明显的是关于部分分配给寄存器的局部变量，随着更高的优化级别变得更糟;生成的代码也与没有调试信息的代码有些不同。但总的来说它有效。
正在进行解决剩余问题的工作（大多数已在源存储库中解决）。我想目标调试将在今年年底之前完全正常运行。也来自Eclipse和Code :: Blocks。
菲利普



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Work on having visual debugging in the free toolchain is progressing.
For now, there already is
https://stm8-binutils-gdb.sourceforge.io/
  which allows on-target debugging from the Eclipse IDE.There are a few issues, most notably regarding local variables allocated partially to registers, which gets worse with higher optimization levels; also the generated code is somewhat different from the one without debug info. But in general it works.
Work is in progress on solving the remaining issues (most are already solved in the source repositories). I guess that on-target debugging will be fully working before the end of the year. Also from within Eclipse and Code::Blocks.
Philipp

很抱歉入侵你的对话。如果这一切都奏效将会很棒。我喜欢CDT。我非常感谢使用Ac6 System Workbench。但是，STSS8的SDSS代码生成器需要显着改进。可能是我不知道这个神奇的词？



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Sorry for invading your dialogue. It would be great if it all worked. I like CDT. I highly appreciated it when using Ac6 System Workbench. However, the generator of the  code of the SDSS for STM8 desirable to significantly improve. May be I do not known the magic word?

https://sourceforge.net/projects/eclipse-sdcc/?source=directory
 有一个8051目标的Eclipse插件，可以很容易地修改为目标STM8（我只是通过更改配置文件为PIC18F46K22做了它
https://betterc18.blogspot.ro/p/eclipse-sdcc.html
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https://sourceforge.net/projects/eclipse-sdcc/?source=directory
There is an Eclipse plug-in for 8051 target that can be easily modified to target STM8 (I did it for PIC18F46K22 just by changing the configuration files
https://betterc18.blogspot.ro/p/eclipse-sdcc.html
)

1）所有编译器都会擅长某些代码而对其他代码不太好（参见例如
https://community.st.com/0D50X00009XkXJKSA3
 关于宇宙的这个问题）。虽然理想情况下编译器会为所有C输入生成非常优化的asm，但实际上它有助于了解编译器喜欢的编码风格并生成有效的代码.2）由于SDCC正在快速改进，因此有助于使用最新版本（ SDCC 3.6.0发布于一年多以前;可能会在今年晚些时候发布SDCC 3.7.0），开发版本可用作二进制快照和源代码。
3）对于许多代码，神奇的词是： - opt-code-size --max-allocs-per-node＆lt; value＆gt;。其中＆lt; value＆gt;是一个很大的数字。默认值为3000.较大的值使SDCC优化更多（但编译速度变慢）。
4）如果你有一个可编译的小代码示例，你认为SDCC生成特别糟糕的代码，你可以在Sourceforge上打开一个功能请求。这可能会导致SDCC的改进（有时功能请求会很快得到实施，而其他人则会在跟踪器中停留数年而不会发生任何事情）。
菲利普
 
 注意：原始帖子包含大量线程对话，只能迁移到第9级



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1) All compilers will be good at some code and not so good for other (see e.g.
https://community.st.com/0D50X00009XkXJKSA3
  about such an issue for Cosmic). While ideally compilers would generate very optimized asm for all C input, in reality it helps to know a bit about what coding style the compiler likes and generates efficent code for.2) Since SDCC is improving rapidly, it helps to use a recent version (the SDCC 3.6.0 release was over a year ago; there will probably a SDCC 3.7.0 release later this year), development versions are available as binary snapshots and source.
3) For a lot of code, the magic word is: --opt-code-size --max-allocs-per-node . Where is some big number. The default is 3000. Larger values make SDCC optimize more (but slow down compilation).
4) If you have a compileable, small code example, where you think that SDCC generates particularly bad code, you can open a feature request at Sourceforge. This might lead to an improvement in SDCC (while sometimes feature requests get implemented quickly, others stay in the tracker for years without anything happening).
Philipp

Note: the original post contained a large number of threaded conversations and was only able to be migrated to the 9th level

虽然该插件似乎适合您（在64位GNU / Linux上），但我在其他地方读过有关人们在使用它时遇到问题的问题（特别是在Windows上使用最近的64位Eclipse时）。我想它需要一些更新。
菲利普



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While that plugin seems to work well for you (on 64-bit GNU/Linux), I've read in other places about people having problems getting it to work (especially when using recent 64-bit Eclipse on Windows). I guess it needs some updating.
Philipp

菲利普，非常感谢你的建议。但是，我无法在财务上支持您的项目。因此，我认为我不能向你提出任何要求。如果您有兴趣，我可以尽快为您准备一些例子。



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Thank you very much for the suggestion, Philip. However, I can not support your project financially. Therefore, I think that I can not demand anything from you. If you are interested I can prepare for you a few examples, soon.

信誉良好的Clive One，
请告诉我，您使用的旧高质量编译器是什么？我也需要这个。它可以在哪里获得？



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Reputable Clive One,
Tell me please, what the old high-quality compiler do you use? I also need this. And where it can be acquired?