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我试图找到一个看起来像触觉开关,但实际上是一个电阻器。 这些是Omnichord 80年代合成玩具的某些版本的按钮。 我正在附上一张照片,它们看起来像触觉开关。 这有名字吗? 如果我对搜索方式有了更好的了解,我可能会想出一个选项。 按下时,它们读取的阻力大约为10k或更小,从而触发音符。 它们是可变电阻器,在某种意义上说,如果你更加努力,它们会提供更小的阻力......但从功能上来说,合成器会对所有触发的压力机进行相同的处理。 谢谢! 扎克 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hello. I’m trying to find what looks like a tactile switch but is actually a resistor. These are buttons for certain versions of the Omnichord '80s synth toy. I’m attaching a picture, they look like tactile switches. Is there a name for this? If I had a better sense of how to search, I might come up with an option. They read about 10k resistance or less when pressed, which triggers a note. They are variable resistors in the sense that if you push harder, they provide less resistance… but functionally, the synth treats all triggered presses the same. Thanks! Zack |
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你好,
不幸的是,在查看了所有选项后,我们看来并没有进行这种切换。 不幸的是,没有简单的方法来搜索特定的开关,而没有一些标记。 可能使用尺寸可能会帮助您进行搜索。 有时它们的长度和宽度尺寸称为它们,或者如果它是正方形则称为一个尺寸。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hello, Unfortunately after looking through all of our options it appears we don’t carry that switch. Unfortunately there is no easy way to search for that specific switch without some markings on it. Possibly using the dimensions might help you with your search. Sometimes they are called by their length and width dimensions, or the one dimension if it is a square. |
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谢谢。
但是我很清楚,这不是文字开/关感的转换。 它作为电阻执行。 我可以通过搜索尺寸找到一个开关,是的。 但我想知道是否有一个我应该寻找的电阻器部件。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Thanks. But so I’m clear, this is not a switch in the literal on/off sense. It performs as a resistor. I can find a switch by searching for dimensions, yes. But I’m trying to find out if there’s a resistor part I should be searching for. |
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你好,
你还没有真正解释阻力和/或开关的作用。 比如,对于具有开关功能,是否存在打开和关闭状态? 此外,它是固定阻力,它实际上是从0-10k变化,或者是什么值? 根据您的描述,它听起来像一个内置10k电阻的开关。 其中,如果是,您可以找到一个开关,然后串联一个10K电阻。 这就是我在搜索时所经历的。 不幸的是,我们没有内置10k电阻的开关,也没有使用柱塞动作的电位器。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hello, You haven’t really explained what the resistance and or switch is doing. Like, for having a switch function, is there an open and closed state? Also, is it a fixed resistance, does it actually vary from 0-10k, or what are the values? From how you have described it, it sounds like a switch with a built in 10k resistor. Which, if it is you may be able to locate a switch, and then add a 10K resistor in series. That is what I went by when searching. Unfortunately we don’t have a switch with a built in 10k resistor, or a potentiometer that uses a plunger action. |
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嗨,安迪
好的,谢谢,你的笔记结尾,“一个带柱塞动作的电位器”切断了我之前可以使用的措辞。 所以我觉得我陷入了僵局。 这些柱塞的电阻实际上是可变的。 如果你用力推,你可以将它们降到1k欧姆左右。 但是他们有一个自然距离,他们移动没有太大的力量,并且读取大约10k。 在功能上,我喜欢你的开关和固定电阻的想法。 我希望这种奇怪的按钮仍然存在,但听起来他们没有。 谢谢。 扎克 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hi Andy Okay, thanks, the end of your note, “a potentiometer with plunger action” cuts to the wording I could have used earlier. So I think I’m at an impasse. These plungers are actually variable in resistance. If you push hard, you can get them down to 1k ohm or so. But they have a natural distance they move without a lot of force, and that reads about 10k. Functionally, I like your idea of a switch and a fixed resistor. I was hoping this kind of weird button existed still, but it sounds like they don’t. Thanks. Zack |
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所测量的接触电阻的压力依赖性表明碳或导电聚合物接触元件的可能性,而不是大多数通用开关中的金属接触。
与小型触觉开关相比,这样的操作在制造和声学操作方面可能相对便宜,因此是所述应用的非常合理的选择。 如果它只是触发逻辑,我猜想有效的接触电阻并不重要,并且机械兼容的标准触觉开关也可以电气工作。 可以想象的是,OEM开关的较高接触电阻被用作RC滤波器中的R以使输入反弹,在这种情况下,先前建议添加串联电阻应该有所帮助。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 The pressure-dependent character of the the measured contact resistance suggests the possibility of a carbon or conductive polymer contact element, rather than the metal contacts found in most general-purpose switches. Such a thing probably would have been relatively inexpensive to manufacture and acoustically quieter in operation than a small tactile switch, and thus a very reasonable choice for the stated application. If it’s simply triggering logic, I’d guess that a the effective contact resistance is not critical and that a standard tactile switch that’s mechanically compatible would also work electrically. It’s conceivable though that the higher contact resistance of the OEM switches was leveraged as the R in an RC filter to de-bounce the inputs, in which case the prior suggestion of adding a series resistor should help. |
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谢谢你的想法。
是的,我希望找到新的部件来替换一个或几个...在这种情况下,我有一台零件机器来拉几个好的。 但我已经没有了。 如果我遇到类似的情况,它最有意义的是全部更换 - 所以他们最终都感觉一样 - 我喜欢带电阻的简单触觉开关的想法。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Thanks for your thoughts. Yeah, I was hoping to find new parts to replace just one or a few… In this case, I had a parts machine to pull a few good ones. But I’m running out of those. If I come across a similar situation where it makes the most sense to replace them all–so they all feel the same in the end–I like the idea of simple tactile switches with resistors. |
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嗨Zack,
也许原理图可以帮助识别开关。 查看网站: http://www.suzukimusic.co.uk/omnichord-heaven/service/schematics.html 干杯, 贺客++ 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hi Zack, Maybe the schematics could help in identifying the switches. Check the website: http://www.suzukimusic.co.uk/omnichord-heaven/service/schematics.html Cheers, heke++ |
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谢谢,赫克。
是的,我已经看过那里的细节,但是如果我错过了什么,我会再看看。 我的感觉是,这些奇怪的开关早已不复存在。 我从另一个我能够使用的Omnichord这里得到了一些额外的东西。 但如果它再次出现,替换它们可能是值得的。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Thanks, Heke. Yeah, I’ve been though details over there but I’ll take another look in case I missed something. My sense is that these weird switches are long gone. I had some extras here from another Omnichord I was able to use. But if it comes up again, replacing them all might be worth it. |
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嗨Zack,
那个转换可以由ALPS完成。 这个模型也许可以接近: https://www.alps.com/prod/info/E/HTML/Tact/SnapIn/SKEG/SKEGAEA010.html 干杯, 贺客++ 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hi Zack, That switch could be made by ALPS. This model could perhaps come close: https://www.alps.com/prod/info/E/HTML/Tact/SnapIn/SKEG/SKEGAEA010.html Cheers, heke++ |
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HI Heke,很可能,不幸的是,我们不携带阿尔卑斯产品,所以我们不知道。
我们可以添加很多其他内容,Rick,Andy和Zack的先前信息是我们在这个开关上最好的。 格伦达 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 HI Heke, that is very possible, unfortunately, we do not carry Alps products so we would not know. There is not much else we can add to this posting, the previous information from Rick, Andy and Zack is the best we have on this switch. Glenda |
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哇谢谢。
那可能就是这样。 我现在已经过去了,但如果我正在使用相同的开关工作另一个Omnichord,我将在未来检查它。 (其他型号使用不同的开关。) 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Wow, thanks. That very well could be it. I’m past my need now but I’ll check it out in the future if I’m working on another Omnichord with the same switches. (Other models used different switches.) |
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