我应该担心Microchip吗？

也许你可以开张票来确定他们的答复。他们很少在论坛上做出回应。



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    Maybe you can open a ticket with with to be certain to get a reply form them. They rarely respond in the forum.

乔治在这里回答了一些问题，清楚地列出你的问题。如果他没有回应，那就放一张支持票。



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    George does respond here for certain issues.
List your issues clearly.  If he does not respond, then put in a Support Ticket.

具体来说，任何与模拟器有关。他只是列车残骸中的另一名乘客。



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Specifically, anything to do with the simulator.
He's just another passenger in the train wreck of the rest of the IDE.

火车残骸3



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    train wreck <3

未来是很难看到的。在Atmel收购之后，PICS的信念并不明确。新版发行的步伐已经放缓。看起来微芯片有利于前Atmel产品。整个PIC生态系统完全有可能濒临死亡。但是真的没有办法知道。



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    Future is hard to see. After Atmel acquisition, the faith of the PICs is not clear. The pace of new releases has slowed down. Looks like Microchip is favouring former Atmel products. It is entirely possible that the whole PIC ecosystem may be left dying a slow death. But there's no way to know really.

微芯片在PIC架构中具有相当大的投资。我认为PIC32线将走向Atmel侧，但现在有新版本的DSPIC33和PIC24线，现在出来了，越来越多的…至少我是这么说的。：）



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    Microchip has considerable investment in the PIC architecture.  I think the PIC32 line is going to go towards the Atmel side, but there are new releases for the dsPIC33 and PIC24 lines that are now out and more coming... at least that is what I am told.  :)
 

我怀疑微芯片将被硅的销售驱动。我认为那些正在销售的芯片将继续向前发展。我认为Atmel的收购是为了获得更多的市场份额。



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    I suspect Microchip will be driven by sales of the silicon.
I think those chips that are selling will continue forwards.
I think the Atmel acquisition was to secure more market share.

谢谢你的回答。我认为Microchip会幸存。可惜的是，好的芯片（我没有问题）会被坏的工具所伤害。嗨，开发者，有生命迹象吗？有什么解释吗？这个论坛有什么意义？安迪



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    Thanks for all the answers. I think Microchip will survive.
Too bad that actually good chips (I have no problems) will be harmed by bad tools.
 
Hi developer, any sign of life?!
Any explanation why?
What's the point of this forum?
 
Andy

正如卡特拉在第2页提到的，这是一个用户到用户的论坛，而不是与开发者沟通的一种方式。你必须创建一个“支持票”来获得微芯片的响应。如何提交技术支持案例？



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    As katela mentioned in post#2, this is a user to user forum, NOT a way to communicate with the developers.
You have to create a "Support Ticket" to get a response from Microchip.
How to submit a technical support case?
 

这很有趣。我想最终会有英特尔、Xilinx、模拟设备、TI和Microchip。其他一切都会被同化。除了马维尔之外，Microchip已经收购了我曾经使用过的LAN芯片制造商。SMSC，McReLe，现在MICROSEL。MixSimple还制造了我们大量使用的IGLO FPGA。$10B微微购买使得Atmel的购买看起来像口袋里的变化。



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This is funny. I think in the end, there will be Intel, Xilinx, Analog Devices, TI, and Microchip. All else will be assimilated. Microchip has bought every manufacturer of LAN chips I've ever used except for Marvell. SMSC, Micrel, and now Microsemi. Microsemi also makes Igloo FPGAs which we use heavily. The $10B Microsemi purchase makes the Atmel purchase look like pocket change.
 
 

有趣的是，你没有提到瑞萨，因为他们是，并且已经有1年的微控制器。我说，我不知道为什么。它必须很大（汽车？）顾客把它放在那里。我刚看了瑞萨的法内尔。他们列出了128个微控制器。点击“库存”，然后下降到5，其中3个只有“可用，直到库存耗尽”。所以2个设备。



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    Interesting you didn't mention Renesas, since they are, and have been for ages, number 1 in micro-controllers.
 
That said, I don't know why. It has to be large (automotive?) customers keeping it there. I just looked up Renesas on Farnell. They list 128 micro-controllers. Click "in stock" and that drops to 5, and 3 of them are only "Available until stock is exhausted".
So 2 devices.

事实上，NXP现在是顶级的，瑞萨正在失去份额。但我并不是在思考微控制器。真的，我只是觉得这个行业有很多的整合。大公司甚至被更大的公司吞并。有一个好主意的小公司被抢走了。过去几年我一直惊讶于Microchip的快速增长。每2到4年的一次大收购至少有十几年了。我也觉得当人们抱怨微芯片对小客户的支持很有趣，因为Microchip依赖于“小家伙”来销售。他们一年卖十亿张照片。这不是被“小家伙”买的（我是这个舞台上的小人物）。



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    Actually NXP is tops now and Renesas is losing share. But I wasn't thinking just microcontrollers. Really I was just thinking that there is a lot of consolidation going on in the industry. Big companies gobbled up by even bigger companies. Small companies with a good idea getting snatched up. I've been surprised over the last few years how fast Microchip has been growing.  A major acquisition every 2 to 4 years for at least a dozen years now.
 
I also think it's funny when people complain about Microchip support for smaller customers because Microchip depends on the "little guys" for sales. They sell a billion PICs a year. That ain't being bought by the "little guys" (and I'm a little guy in this arena).

我把目光投向柏树。对他们的PSoC控制器线路印象深刻。有了这个易于配置的数字设计空间可以是这样的帮助。



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    I've got my eye on Cypress.  Been pretty impressed with their PSoC line of controllers.  Having that easily configurable digital design space can be such a help.

如果你买下竞争，你可以提高价格，从而获得利润。在收购之后，你不需要有两条不同的路线。削减其中一项将减半开支，从而增加利润。当然，客户只需切换到另一条线路即可。从长远来看，唯一的问题是哪条线能幸存下来。



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If you buy out competition, you can increase prices and thus profits.
 
After the acquisition, you don't need to have two different lines of the same. Cutting one of them will cut expenses by half thereby increasing the profits. The customers, of course, will simply switch to the other line. In a long run, the only question is which line will survive.
 

嗨，奎，我该在车票上写些什么呢？这是废话。4.15的问题在4.20被修复，其他的都回来了。我已经安装了任何版本，希望你能工作：最后，它让我失望。我想工作，一切都好。如果我的问题必须解决，那就太好了。安迪。



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    Hi qub,
 

 
What should I write on the ticket. It is crap.
Problems of 4.15 are repaired in 4.20, others are back.
Any version I have installed with the hope now you can work: finally, it has disappointed me.
 
I want to work, it's all.
Would be nice if only my problems would have to solve.
 
Andy
 
 
 

根据我的经验，如果你想避免使用旧的工具集……或使用第三方工具，似乎有一个连续的“是的，我们必须修复……在微芯片上的某个时候”的态度；而且情况并没有改善。该死的，我甚至不得不把论坛设置为“移动”模式，甚至登录！点证明…避免“出血边缘”，这样做远不是理想的。缺点是你只能使用“最后几年”的芯片和一些非常“ER”的代码示例，其中许多代码都有自己的错误添加到混合中。连同他们各自的“移动目标”文档（今天在这里，但是明天改变了），至少程序员通常使用芯片，并且任何问题都有更好的文档记录（第三方网站，幸运的发现微芯片上的任何东西，混乱的网页…）你可以习惯于做事情而不改变一切，需要重新学习，无限。熟悉建立了经验，节省了时间。目前的编程硬件似乎完全是基于“出售它然后希望它工作”的思维方式；我唯一的尝试是在Web票响应（PICTIT4不释放12CF部件上的MCLR线），导致建议重复我的HA。我已经试过了……我没有任何进一步的反应。不完全是令人鼓舞的；当我可以购买任何数量的完整的板，从相同的或更少的价格，从其他制造商，直接工作的盒子，并鼓励我使用他们的范围代替…我已经考虑升级。到ICD4，至少试着玩追赶……现在不是地狱中的猫。我还在学习，我永远不能确定这是我的错误还是工具……这是一个不确定性和花费（时间和金钱）。我可以不做。如果Microchip认真出售更多，而不仅仅是购买。更多的公司，他们真的需要行动起来；此刻他们正积极地驱赶客户……你注意到了PIC Micro的网页数量下降了吗？还是那些从他们移动到手臂核心的人？考虑到目前的状态，我不认为这是巧合…或许是他们买下阿特梅尔的主要原因之一。



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    Based on my experience if you want to avoid problems use an older toolset...or two,or use third-party tools;there seems to be a continual 'yeah we must fix that..sometime' attitude at microchip;and the situation isn't improving!
hell,i even had to set the forum to 'mobile' mode to even log in! point proven...
Avoiding 'bleeding-edge' and doing it this way is far from ideal...the downside is you can only use 'last-years' chips and some very,er 'legacy' code examples,many of which have their own bugs to add into the mix. along with their respective 'moving target' documentation (here today but changed/gone tomorrow)
On the plus side at least the programmers generally work with the chips,and any problems are better documented (third party web sites, good luck finding anything on microchips shambolic web pages..) and you can get used to doing things without everything changing and needing to be re-learned all over again,ad infinitum. familiarity builds experience and saves time.
The current programming hardware seems to be entirely based on the 'sell it then hope it works' school of thinking;my one and only attempt at a web-ticket response (PICKit4 not releasing MCLR lines on 12F parts) resulted in the advice to repeat what i had already tried...and i haven't had any further response.
Not exactly encouraging; when i could have bought any number of complete boards for the same,or less, price from other manufacturers,which work straight out of the box; and encourage me to use their range instead...i had considered upgrading to an ICD4 to at least try and play catch-up...not a cat-in-hells chance now.as i'm still learning,i could never be sure if it was my error or the tools...it's an uncertainty and an expense (in both time and money) i can do without.
 
If microchip are serious about selling more,rather than just buying more companies, they really need to get their act together; at the moment they are positively driving customers away...have you noticed the falling numbers of web pages mentioning PIC micro's? or the ones 'moving on' from them to ARM core? given the current state of play;i don't think it is any coincidence... and perhaps one of the main reasons they bought ATMEL.