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[问答] BIOS更新和较旧的四核处理器是否存在兼容性问题?
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我刚刚从英特尔驱动程序部分的更新中更新了我的BIOS。
更新后,我的处理器在BIOS屏幕空闲时加热到97C。
完全运行计算机的唯一方法是禁用所有增强选项,仅在1核上运行,并将CPU风扇设置为始终以80-100%的速度运行。
在运行最少的应用程序的情况下运行窗口时,温度仍然不低(55-60C)。
我已经清洗并重新涂抹导热膏。
新更新和旧处理器之间是否存在兼容性问题?
我该怎么办这个问题?
主板 - 英特尔DBZ6810H
运行BIOS更新 - 英特尔公司DBZ6810H.86A.0047.2018.0409.1733,09-Apr-18
处理器 - 英特尔(R)酷睿(TM)i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz,3392 Mhz(现在运行1核)

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I just updated my BIOS from the update found on the Intel drivers section. After the update my processor heats up to 97C while idle in the BIOS screen.
The only way to run the computer at all is to disable all enhancing options, run on 1 core only, and set the CPU fan to work on 80-100% speed at all times. The temperature is still not low (55-60C) when running windows with minimal applications running.
I've already cleaned and reapplied thermal paste.

Is there a compatibility problem between the new update and older processors?
What should I do with this issue?

Mother board - Intel DBZ6810H
Running BIOS update - Intel Corp. DBZ6810H.86A.0047.2018.0409.1733, 09-Apr-18
Processor - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3392 Mhz (right now running 1 core)
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2018-11-5 11:20:37   评论 分享淘帖 邀请回答
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只有3块板具有z68芯片组:DZ68BC,DZ68DB,DZ68ZV
你有哪一个?
而且,你在运行什么操作系统?
具体使用内部版本号。
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There are only 3 boards that have the z68 chipset:  DZ68BC, DZ68DB, DZ68ZV
 
Which one do you have?
 
And, what operating system are you running?  Be specific with the build number.
 
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mapleasdf 发表于 2018-11-5 17:45
只有3块板具有z68芯片组:DZ68BC,DZ68DB,DZ68ZV
你有哪一个?
而且,你在运行什么操作系统?

这是DZB68DB。
Windows 10,64bit,build 17134.228
CPU在BIOS屏幕上也很热,所以我不确定Windows版本与它有什么关系。

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It's the DZB68DB.
Windows 10, 64bit, build 17134.228
 
The CPU is hot in the BIOS screen as well, so I'm not sure the windows version has anything to do with it.
2018-11-5 11:52:43 评论

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HenryRain 发表于 2018-11-5 17:58
这是DZB68DB。
Windows 10,64bit,build 17134.228
CPU在BIOS屏幕上也很热,所以我不确定Windows版本与它有什么关系。

我相信你的意思是DZ68DB。
您知道WIndows 10不支持您的主板和处理器,对吗?
随着电路板和处理器的老化,我倾向于首先重新涂抹导热膏(我知道你已经这样做了,但是再试一次),并确保散热片散热片清洁干净,并确保
没有什么阻碍进气口和排气口。
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I am sure you mean DZ68DB.
 
You know that your board and processor are not supported on WIndows 10, correct?
 
With a board and processor this old, I would be inclined to reapply the thermal paste first (I know you have done that already, but try again), and to make certain that the heat sink fins are blown clean, as well as insuring there is nothing obstrucing the intake and exhaust vents.
 
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HenryRain 发表于 2018-11-5 17:58
这是DZB68DB。
Windows 10,64bit,build 17134.228
CPU在BIOS屏幕上也很热,所以我不确定Windows版本与它有什么关系。

请尝试以下方法:
在BIOS POST期间,使用F2键进入BIOS设置。使用F9键(后跟Y)将BIOS配置恢复为默认值。使用F10键(后跟Y)保存此配置并退出BIOS Setup。在后续BIOS POST期间,
使用F2键再次进入BIOS设置。进入风扇速度控制配置场景并将Temperature Aggressiveness参数设置为High。在BIOS配置中进行您绝对需要/期望的任何其他更改(引导顺序,NUMLOCK状态等)
。使用F10键(后跟Y)保存此配置并退出BIOS Setup.Boot进入Windows并进行测试。
您不应根据BIOS设置中看到的处理器温度做出任何决定。
在BIOS设置中,所有处理器的电源管理功能都被禁用,这意味着它将一直消耗高功率,并且所有中断都被禁用,这意味着代码始终在执行(当它什么都没有时它会循环旋转)
去做)。
结果,温度自然会更高 - 一段时间后通常会显着升高。
根据您在加载Windows时看到的温度做出决定;
查看系统空闲时和系统非常繁忙时的温度。
Windows 10不是您平台上官方支持的操作系统(无论是在英特尔的眼中还是在微软的眼中)。
虽然Windows 10将运行,但它无法以最佳方式运行,并且随着时间的推移,对特定硬件功能的支持正在被删除(例如,英特尔RST)。
由于英特尔不支持此平台上的Windows 10,因此Windows 10的驱动程序很少.Microsoft的兼容性驱动程序就是您所拥有的 - 并且Microsoft已停止响应与这些驱动程序相关的问题报告。
希望这有帮助(预先警告是预先设定的),
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Try the following:
 

  • During BIOS POST, use F2 key to enter BIOS Setup.
  • Use F9 key (followed by Y) to restore the BIOS configuration to defaults.
  • Use F10 key (followed by Y) to save this configuration and exit BIOS Setup.
  • During subsequent BIOS POST, use F2 key to again enter BIOS Setup.
  • Go into the Fan Speed Control configuration scene and set the Temperature Aggressiveness parameter to High.
  • Make any other changes (Boot Order, NUMLOCK State, etc.) that you absolutely require/desire in the BIOS Configuration.
  • Use F10 key (followed by Y) to save this configuration and exit BIOS Setup.
  • Boot into Windows and test.
 
You shouldn't base any decision on the processor temperature that you see while in BIOS Setup. While in BIOS Setup, all of the processor's power management features are disabled, which means it will be consuming high power all the time, and all interrupts are disabled, which means that code is always executing (it spins in a loop when it has nothing to do). As a result, temperatures will naturally be higher - and usually will be significantly higher after a time. Base your decisions on what temperatures you see when Windows is loaded; look at the temperatures when the system is idle and when the system is made very busy.
 
Windows 10 is not an officially-supported O/S on your platform (either in the eyes of Intel or the eyes of Microsoft). While Windows 10 will run, it will not run optimally and, over time, support for specific hardware features is being dropped (Intel RST, for example). Because Intel is not supporting Windows 10 on this platform, there are few drivers for Windows 10. Microsoft's compatibility drivers are all that you have - and Microsoft has stopped responding to problem reports related to these drivers.
 
Hope this helps (forewarned is forearmed),
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2018-11-5 12:17:50 评论

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tianyou15 发表于 2018-11-5 18:23
请尝试以下方法:
在BIOS POST期间,使用F2键进入BIOS设置。使用F9键(后跟Y)将BIOS配置恢复为默认值。使用F10键(后跟Y)保存此配置并退出BIOS Setup。在后续BIOS POST期间,
使用F2键再次进入BIOS设置。进入风扇速度控制配置场景并将Temperature Aggressiveness参数设置为High。在BIOS配置中进行您绝对需要/期望的任何其 ...

谢谢你的详细回复!
我很好地清理了旧的粘贴(顺便说一句,从我第一次将PC放在一起时它不是同一个)。
我只将糊状物放在一侧,将散热片放到适当的位置,然后看到它转移得很好 - 它确实如此,然后我将它点击回原位。
它从97C开始刮了几度,但在90+时仍然非常高。
相比之下,我知道我之前的BIOS屏幕中的CPU低于40C。
实际上没有必要再次重新应用粘贴,因为它是BIOS更新后立即引起的问题。
我已经将BIOS重置为默认值并使粉丝变得激进,我甚至将它们限制在100%的工作状态 - 没有任何帮助。
这是我在网上找到的第一件事,它对其他人也没有帮助。
他们最终购买了一台新的CPU ...我现在不想这样做,但我需要我的电脑才能工作。
我现在再试一次,我甚至没有进入Windows密码屏幕。
我知道WIN10不能用我的旧装备进行最佳运行。
当微软做这种事情时,我的电脑在未经我许可的情况下被强行更新。
无论如何,在BIOS更新之前,计算机运行WIN10非常顺利。
我运行了一些重型软件(Adobe,Matlab等),响应时间从来没有任何问题。
我现在阅读BIOS更新文档,它说我不能闪回我的旧版本,因为他们在我拥有的架构之后(与22nm CMOS门有关)进行了体系结构更改,因此该选项对我来说也是关闭的。
除非你的朋友可以想到一些天才的想法,我想我必须得到一个新的MOBO和CPU,因为英特尔BIOS更新杀了我的。
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Thank you for the detailed responses guys!!
 
I cleaned the old paste really well (BTW it's not the same one from the first time I put the PC together). I place the paste only on one side, click the heat sink into place and see that it transfers well - and it did, then I click it back to place. It did shave off a few degrees from 97C, but still very high at 90+. In comparison, I know my CPU was at less than 40C in the BIOS screen previous to that. There's really no need to reapply the paste again since it is a problem caused immediately after the BIOS update.
 
I've already reset the BIOS to defaults and made the fans aggressive, I even bound them to work 100% at all times - no help. That was the first thing I found online, it didn't help other people as well. They ended up buy a new CPU... I just don't want to do that right now, but I need my computer to work. I tried it again now and I didn't even get to the windows password screen.
 
I know WIN10 doesn't run optimally with my old rig. My PC was forcefully updated without my permission when Microsoft was doing that kind of thing. In any case, the computer ran WIN10 extremely smoothly before the BIOS update. I run some heavy software (Adobe, Matlab, etc.) and there was never any issue with response time.
 
I now read the BIOS update document and it says I cannot flash back to my older one because they had an architectural change right after the one I had (has to do with the 22nm CMOS gates) so that option is also closed to me.
 
Unless you friends can think of some genius idea, I guess that I'm having to get a new MOBO and CPU because the Intel BIOS update killed mine.
 
Cheers
2018-11-5 12:35:00 评论

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HenryRain 发表于 2018-11-5 18:41
谢谢你的详细回复!
我很好地清理了旧的粘贴(顺便说一句,从我第一次将PC放在一起时它不是同一个)。
我只将糊状物放在一侧,将散热片放到适当的位置,然后看到它转移得很好 - 它确实如此,然后我将它点击回原位。

哦,我也清除了所有的灰尘,因为我认为它与热量(温和的真空和吹尘器)有关,所以所有的肋骨都会有效 - 它没有帮助。

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OH, I also cleaned all of the dust out because I assumed it had to do with the heat (gentle vacuum and a dust blower) so all the ribs will be effective - it didn't help.
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HenryRain 发表于 2018-11-5 18:48
哦,我也清除了所有的灰尘,因为我认为它与热量(温和的真空和吹尘器)有关,所以所有的肋骨都会有效 - 它没有帮助。

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我希望我有一个答案给你。
如果你找到一个好的,便宜的第三代处理器,尝试它只是为了踢可能会很有趣。
在过去的两年里,我已经摆脱了许多旧硬件,这仍然是“好”的。
很好,因为它有效,不如W10支持。
但是,新的HW工作得很好。
所以,对新东西玩得开心。
新的NUC非常好 - 尝试一个!
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I wish I had an answer for you.  If you find a good, cheap 3rd gen processor, it might be interesting to try it just for kicks.
 
For the past two years, I have been getting rid of a lot of old HW, that is still "good".  Good, as it works, bad as in W10 support.  But, the new HW works really well.  So, have some fun with the new stuff.  The new NUCs are really nice - try one!
 
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HenryRain 发表于 2018-11-5 18:48
哦,我也清除了所有的灰尘,因为我认为它与热量(温和的真空和吹尘器)有关,所以所有的肋骨都会有效 - 它没有帮助。

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皮尼,
进入Windows并开始运行可以定期监控温度和风扇响应的东西 - 比如AIDA64。
然后,启动一些会给处理器带来很大负担的东西。
当温度为90c(或更高)时,处理器风扇的占空比是多少?
提示:最好是100%!
如果不是,请告诉我。
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Pini,
 
Go into Windows and start something running that can regularly monitor temperatures and fan response - like AIDA64. Then, start something that will place a significant load on the processor. When the temperature is at 90c (or above), what is the duty cycle of the processor fan? Hint: it better be 100%! Let me know if it is not.
 
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tianyou15 发表于 2018-11-5 19:07
皮尼,
进入Windows并开始运行可以定期监控温度和风扇响应的东西 - 比如AIDA64。
然后,启动一些会给处理器带来很大负担的东西。

当你在这里时,完成我之前详述的过程。
不,你以前没有这样做过(不是这样的);
现在做。
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While you are at it, do exactly the process that I detailed earlier. No, you haven't done this before (not like this); do it now.
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tianyou15 发表于 2018-11-5 19:15
当你在这里时,完成我之前详述的过程。
不,你以前没有这样做过(不是这样的);
现在做。

之前我做过类似的事情,现在我按照你说的那样做了(打印出来,所有东西)它仍然无法正常工作......
由于我在WIN10上运行1核心,CPU在任何时候都是90-100%,仍然没有超过51C。
对于1/4 CPU运行来说,这是一个令人发指的温度!
无法让WIN10加载超过1个核心(尝试使用4个中的2个)所以我无法让它在监控时真正达到。
我有一个在英特尔工作的朋友,可以以合理的价格获得新的CPU和MOBO。
我正在运行16GB,Radeon RX560,SSD HD - 所以使用新的CPU和MOBO它应该是一台不错的机器
非常感谢您的帮助!谢谢

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I did it similarly before and now I did it as you said it (printed it out and everything) it still didn't work...
 
Since I'm running 1 core on WIN10, the CPU is literally at 90-100% at all times, still doesn't go over 51C. This is an outrageous temperature for a 1/4 CPU running! Can't get WIN10 to load with more than 1 core (tried with 2 out of 4 as well) so I can't get it to really hit up while monitoring.
 
I have a friend who works at Intel and can get me a new CPU and MOBO for a good price.
 
I'm running a 16GB, Radeon RX560, SSD HD - so with a new CPU and MOBO it should be a nice machine again
 
I appreciate your assistance a lot!
Thank you
2018-11-5 13:24:37 评论

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HenryRain 发表于 2018-11-5 19:30
之前我做过类似的事情,现在我按照你说的那样做了(打印出来,所有东西)它仍然无法正常工作......
由于我在WIN10上运行1核心,CPU在任何时候都是90-100%,仍然没有超过51C。
对于1/4 CPU运行来说,这是一个令人发指的温度!

好。
这是在BIOS更新期间风扇速度控制配置被破坏的问题的已知解决方法(并且通过强制BIOS重置它来修复)。
我不认为这实际上是问题(因为你曾经说过你让粉丝超过100%的工作周期并没有什么区别),但是想确定一下。
那么,看看你的立场,问题就变成了BIOS更新过程中实际发生的事情?
我仔细查看了BIOS发行说明。
有些更改包括新的微码更新,新的ME固件,新的RAID固件和新的LAN固件。
LAN固件仅在PXE期间使用,因此不应成为问题。
RAID固件仅在启用RAID时使用,因此这不应该是一个问题(除非您在此框中执行了一些您未提及的内容)。
ME固件更新包括对其外部接口中关闭漏洞的最小更改,因此这不应成为问题。
这留下了微代码更新包,它提供了更新以减轻Spectre Variant 2漏洞。
不幸的是,我不相信微码更新是造成这个问题的原因。
我也有一个i7-2600处理器,虽然它安装在不同的6系列主板上,但它已经使用相同的微代码更新包进行了更新,并没有出现这个问题。
在这一点上我可以想到两件事:
使用BIOS恢复过程重新安装BIOS 47。
有关如何操作的说明,请访问:英特尔台式机主板恢复BIOS更新说明。
请参阅下面的注释。尝试降级到BIOS 43,这也要求您使用BIOS恢复过程。
我不乐观这会起作用(因为BIOS 47包含ME固件更新)但是尝试这样做不会使事情变得更糟(如果不能支持它,它将在实际进行任何更改之前简单地中止该过程)。
请注意以下内容(我对记录的BIOS恢复过程的补充):
使用小型USB 2.0闪存盘。
不要使用USB 3.0闪存盘!使用FAT32文件系统,在禁用快速格式化选项的情况下,将此闪存盘重新格式化到另一台基于Windows的PC上。
不要尝试在基于Linux或MACOS的PC上执行此操作。
抱歉这需要多长时间。将文件DB0047.BIO放在闪存盘的根文件夹中。
不要在闪存盘上放置任何其他内容!使用系统托盘中的“安全删除硬件和弹出介质”小程序正确弹出闪存盘。将USB闪存盘插入板后面板上的(黑色)USB 2.0端口之一。
请勿使用后面板上的(蓝色)USB 3.0端口,也不要使用任何前面板USB端口。使用BIOS恢复过程成功更新BIOS后,我建议您重置BIOS配置。尝试退出
到BIOS 43,删除文件DB0047.BIO,然后添加文件DB0043.BIO。
重复步骤4,5,一定要做6。
希望这可以帮助,
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Ok. That was the known workaround for an issue where the fan speed control configuration was mucked up during a BIOS update (and which was fixed by forcing the BIOS to reset it). I didn't think that this was actually the issue (since you had said that you overrode the fans to 100% duty cycle and it didn't make a difference), but wanted to make sure.
 
So, looking at where you stand, the question becomes what actually happened during the BIOS update? I looked closely at the BIOS release notes. There were changes to include new microcode updates, new ME firmware, new RAID firmware and new LAN firmware. The LAN firmware is only used during PXE, so that shouldn't be an issue. The RAID firmware is only used if RAID is enabled, so that shouldn't be an issue (unless you are doing something more in this box that you haven't mentioned). The ME firmware updates consisted of minimal changes to close vulnerabilities in its external interface, so that shouldn't be an issue. That leaves the microcode updates package, which provided the updates to mitigate the Spectre Variant 2 vulnerability. Unfortunately, I do not believe that the microcode updates are responsible for this issue. I also have a i7-2600 processor and, though it is installed in a different 6 Series board, it has been updated with this same microcode updates package and it is not exhibiting this issue.
 
There are two things that I can think of to try at this point:
 

  • Reinstall BIOS 47 using the BIOS Recovery process. Instructions for how to do so are available here: Intel Desktop Boards Recovery BIOS Update Instructions. See my notes below as well.
  • Attempt to downgrade to BIOS 43, which also requires that you to use the BIOS Recovery process. I am not optimistic that this will work (because BIOS 47 included a ME firmware update) but attempting to do so cannot make things worse (if it can't be supported, it will simply abort the process before any changes are actually made).
 
Note the following (my additions to the documented BIOS Recovery process):
 

  • Use a small USB 2.0 flash disk. Do not use USB 3.0 flash disks!
  • Reformat this flash disk on another Windows-based PC, using the FAT32 file system, with the Quick Format option disabled. Do not attempt to do this on a Linux- or MACos-based PC. Sorry for how long this takes.
  • Place file DB0047.BIO in the root folder of the flash disk. Place nothing else on the flash disk!
  • Properly eject the flash disk using the Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media applet in the System Tray.
  • Plug the USB flash disk into one of the (black) USB 2.0 ports on the back panel of the board. Do not use the (blue) USB 3.0 ports on the back panel and do not use any front panel USB ports.
  • After successfully updating the BIOS using the BIOS Recovery process, I recommend that you reset the BIOS Configuration.
  • For the attempt to back off to BIOS 43, delete file DB0047.BIO and then add file DB0043.BIO. Repeat steps 4, 5 and definitely do 6.
 
Hope this helps,
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2018-11-5 13:31:31 评论

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