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Norma D6000功率分析仪无法读取测量数据

我正在尝试编写Norma D6000功率分析仪。
发送设置和测量命令有效,但是我无法读取测量数据。在手册中一个基本示例:350FOR N = 1到9380 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)390400 T $ =“UNL LISTEN 5 GET
“410 CALL TRANSMIT(T $,STATUS%)412 S $ =”RED?“414 CALL SEND(ADDRESS%,S $,STATUS%)420 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)430440 IF(POLL%
AND 16)= 0 THEN 420450 PRINT“STATUS:”; POLL%460 R $ = SPACE $ 72470480 CALL ENTER(R $,LENGTH%,ADDRESS%,STATUS%)490500 PRINT R $ 510 NEXT NHOW我从这里制作VEE代码
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  I´m trying to program a Norma D6000 power analyzer. Sending the setup and measurement commands works, but I can not read the measured data.
In the manual is a Basic example:


350 FOR N=1 TO 9

380 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS %)
390
400 T$="UNL LISTEN 5 GET"
410 CALL TRANSMIT(T$,STATUS%)
412 S$="RED?"
414 CALL SEND(ADDRESS%,S$,STATUS%)
420 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)
430
440 IF (POLL% AND 16) = 0 THEN 420
450 PRINT "STATUS:";POLL%
460 R$=SPACE$72
470
480 CALL ENTER(R$,LENGTH%,ADDRESS%,STATUS%)
490
500 PRINT R$
510 NEXT N

How do I make VEE-code from this?

Best regards
Stig Carlsson

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李秀云

2019-9-2 14:10:48
谢谢你的回复。是的,我尝试了“读取”命令,但程序只是锁定所以我认为我必须将SPOLL / POLL命令转换为VEE。
在帮助部分有一个条目“轮询GPIB乐器”,我认为我可以使用,但我不知道为动作和掩码输入哪些数据.S。Carlsson -----原始消息-----
来自:HYPERLINK“mailto:Detlef.Baranski@pilkington.de”Baranski,Detlef To:HYPERLINK“mailto:vrf@agilent.com”VRF发送时间:2007年9月10日星期一1:59 PMS主题:AW:[vrf] Spoll NormaAssuming
你正在使用直接io对象,你只需要发送一些命令并读回数据。例如你的命令是RED?你必须创建一个-Rrite“RED?” - 在directio然后a - 读a-togetyourdata as
“a”....它对你有帮助吗?
_____ Von:Stig Carlsson [mailto:stig_carlsson@bredband.net] Gesendet:Samstag,2007年9月8日07:23安:VRFBetreff:[vrf] Spoll Norma我试图编写Norma D6000功率分析仪。
发送设置和测量命令有效,但是我无法读取测量数据。在手册中一个基本示例:350FOR N = 1到9380 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)390400 T $ =“UNL LISTEN 5 GET
“410 CALL TRANSMIT(T $,STATUS%)412 S $ =”RED?“414 CALL SEND(ADDRESS%,S $,STATUS%)420 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)430440 IF(POLL%
AND 16)= 0 THEN 420450 PRINT“STATUS:”; POLL%460 R $ = SPACE $ 72470480 CALL ENTER(R $,LENGTH%,ADDRESS%,STATUS%)490500 PRINT R $ 510 NEXT NHOW我从这里制作VEE代码
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     以下为原文

  Thanks for the reply.
Yes, I have tried the "read a" command but the program just locks so I think I must convert the SPOLL/POLL commands to VEE. In the help section there is an entry "To poll GPIB instruments" which I think I can use but I don´t know which data to enter for the action and mask.
 
Stig Carlsson

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:Detlef.Baranski@pilkington.de"Baranski, Detlef
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:vrf@agilent.com"VRF
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: AW: [vrf] Spoll Norma

Assuming you are using direct io object, you just have to send some commands and read back the data.
for example your comand is RED?
 
you have to make a -write "RED?"-  in directio and then a - read a-  to get your data as "a"....
Does it help you ? 

  _____  

Von: Stig Carlsson [mailto:stig_carlsson@bredband.net]
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. September 2007 07:23
An: VRF
Betreff: [vrf] Spoll Norma


I´m trying to program a Norma D6000 power analyzer. Sending the setup and measurement commands works, but I can not read the measured data.
In the manual is a Basic example:
 
 
350 FOR N=1 TO 9
 
380 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS %)
390
400 T$="UNL LISTEN 5 GET"
410 CALL TRANSMIT(T$,STATUS%)
412 S$="RED?"
414 CALL SEND(ADDRESS%,S$,STATUS%)
420 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)
430
440 IF (POLL% AND 16) = 0 THEN 420
450 PRINT "STATUS:";POLL%
460 R$=SPACE$72
470
480 CALL ENTER(R$,LENGTH%,ADDRESS%,STATUS%)
490
500 PRINT R$
510 NEXT N
 
How do I make VEE-code from this?
 
Best regards
Stig Carlsson

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李秀云

2019-9-2 14:29:58
谢谢你的回复。是的,我尝试了“读取”命令,但程序只是锁定所以我认为我必须将SPOLL / POLL命令转换为VEE。
在帮助部分有一个条目“轮询GPIB乐器”,我认为我可以使用,但我不知道为动作和掩码输入哪些数据.S。Carlsson -----原始消息-----
来自:HYPERLINK“mailto:Detlef.Baranski@pilkington.de”Baranski,Detlef To:HYPERLINK“mailto:vrf@agilent.com”VRF发送时间:2007年9月10日星期一1:59 PMS主题:AW:[vrf] Spoll NormaAssuming
你正在使用直接io对象,你只需要发送一些命令并读回数据。例如你的命令是RED?你必须创建一个-Rrite“RED?” - 在directio然后a - 读a-togetyourdata as
“a”....它对你有帮助吗?
_____ Von:Stig Carlsson [mailto:stig_carlsson@bredband.net] Gesendet:Samstag,2007年9月8日07:23安:VRFBetreff:[vrf] Spoll Norma我试图编写Norma D6000功率分析仪。
发送设置和测量命令有效,但是我无法读取测量数据。在手册中一个基本示例:350FOR N = 1到9380 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)390400 T $ =“UNL LISTEN 5 GET
“410 CALL TRANSMIT(T $,STATUS%)412 S $ =”RED?“414 CALL SEND(ADDRESS%,S $,STATUS%)420 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)430440 IF(POLL%
AND 16)= 0 THEN 420450 PRINT“STATUS:”; POLL%460 R $ = SPACE $ 72470480 CALL ENTER(R $,LENGTH%,ADDRESS%,STATUS%)490500 PRINT R $ 510 NEXT NHOW我从这里制作VEE代码
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.Axel WiesenerPilkington Automotive Deutschland GmbH,Otto-Seeling-Straße7,58455WittenSitz:Witten,Amtsgericht BochumHRB8443Geschäftsführung:Thomas KretschmannVorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates:Jochen SettelmayerBauglasindustrie GmbH,Hüttenstraße33,66839Schmelz / SaarSitz:Schmelz / Saar,AmtsgerichtSaarbrückenHRB202020Geschäf
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     以下为原文

  Thanks for the reply.
Yes, I have tried the "read a" command but the program just locks so I think I must convert the SPOLL/POLL commands to VEE. In the help section there is an entry "To poll GPIB instruments" which I think I can use but I don´t know which data to enter for the action and mask.
 
Stig Carlsson

----- Original Message -----
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:Detlef.Baranski@pilkington.de"Baranski, Detlef
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:vrf@agilent.com"VRF
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: AW: [vrf] Spoll Norma

Assuming you are using direct io object, you just have to send some commands and read back the data.
for example your comand is RED?
 
you have to make a -write "RED?"-  in directio and then a - read a-  to get your data as "a"....
Does it help you ? 

  _____  

Von: Stig Carlsson [mailto:stig_carlsson@bredband.net]
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. September 2007 07:23
An: VRF
Betreff: [vrf] Spoll Norma


I´m trying to program a Norma D6000 power analyzer. Sending the setup and measurement commands works, but I can not read the measured data.
In the manual is a Basic example:
 
 
350 FOR N=1 TO 9
 
380 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS %)
390
400 T$="UNL LISTEN 5 GET"
410 CALL TRANSMIT(T$,STATUS%)
412 S$="RED?"
414 CALL SEND(ADDRESS%,S$,STATUS%)
420 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)
430
440 IF (POLL% AND 16) = 0 THEN 420
450 PRINT "STATUS:";POLL%
460 R$=SPACE$72
470
480 CALL ENTER(R$,LENGTH%,ADDRESS%,STATUS%)
490
500 PRINT R$
510 NEXT N
 
How do I make VEE-code from this?
 
Best regards
Stig Carlsson

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Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Dr. Axel Wiesener

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Sitz: Witten, Amtsgericht Bochum HRB 8443
Geschäftsführung: Thomas Kretschmann
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李秀云

2019-9-2 14:37:56
It seems like you want to use SPOLL under I/O>Advanded I/O>Instrument Event and set the mask to 16 and the action to All Clear.  Or, you can set it to No Wait, put the object in a loop, and check the output with an IF object until it's clear (value AND 16 == 0) - this way if the event never happens you can also do other things like timeout the loop.
 
Reiner

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From: Stig Carlsson [mailto:stig_carlsson@bredband.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:34 AM
To: VRF
Subject: Re: [vrf] Spoll Norma


Thanks for the reply.
Yes, I have tried the "read a" command but the program just locks so I think I must convert the SPOLL/POLL commands to VEE. In the help section there is an entry "To poll GPIB instruments" which I think I can use but I don´t know which data to enter for the action and mask.
 
Stig Carlsson

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:Detlef.Baranski@pilkington.de"Baranski, Detlef
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:vrf@agilent.com"VRF
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: AW: [vrf] Spoll Norma

Assuming you are using direct io object, you just have to send some commands and read back the data.
for example your comand is RED?
 
you have to make a -write "RED?"-  in directio and then a - read a-  to get your data as "a"....
Does it help you ? 

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Von: Stig Carlsson [mailto:stig_carlsson@bredband.net]
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. September 2007 07:23
An: VRF
Betreff: [vrf] Spoll Norma


I´m trying to program a Norma D6000 power analyzer. Sending the setup and measurement commands works, but I can not read the measured data.
In the manual is a Basic example:
 
 
350 FOR N=1 TO 9
 
380 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS %)
390
400 T$="UNL LISTEN 5 GET"
410 CALL TRANSMIT(T$,STATUS%)
412 S$="RED?"
414 CALL SEND(ADDRESS%,S$,STATUS%)
420 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)
430
440 IF (POLL% AND 16) = 0 THEN 420
450 PRINT "STATUS:";POLL%
460 R$=SPACE$72
470
480 CALL ENTER(R$,LENGTH%,ADDRESS%,STATUS%)
490
500 PRINT R$
510 NEXT N
 
How do I make VEE-code from this?
 
Best regards
Stig Carlsson

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李秀云

2019-9-2 14:47:20
It seems like you want to use SPOLL under I/O>Advanded I/O>Instrument Event and set the mask to 16 and the action to All Clear.  Or, you can set it to No Wait, put the object in a loop, and check the output with an IF object until it's clear (value AND 16 == 0) - this way if the event never happens you can also do other things like timeout the loop.
 
Reiner

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From: Stig Carlsson [mailto:stig_carlsson@bredband.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:34 AM
To: VRF
Subject: Re: [vrf] Spoll Norma


Thanks for the reply.
Yes, I have tried the "read a" command but the program just locks so I think I must convert the SPOLL/POLL commands to VEE. In the help section there is an entry "To poll GPIB instruments" which I think I can use but I don´t know which data to enter for the action and mask.
 
Stig Carlsson

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:Detlef.Baranski@pilkington.de"Baranski, Detlef
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:vrf@agilent.com"VRF
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: AW: [vrf] Spoll Norma

Assuming you are using direct io object, you just have to send some commands and read back the data.
for example your comand is RED?
 
you have to make a -write "RED?"-  in directio and then a - read a-  to get your data as "a"....
Does it help you ? 

  _____  

Von: Stig Carlsson [mailto:stig_carlsson@bredband.net]
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. September 2007 07:23
An: VRF
Betreff: [vrf] Spoll Norma


I´m trying to program a Norma D6000 power analyzer. Sending the setup and measurement commands works, but I can not read the measured data.
In the manual is a Basic example:
 
 
350 FOR N=1 TO 9
 
380 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS %)
390
400 T$="UNL LISTEN 5 GET"
410 CALL TRANSMIT(T$,STATUS%)
412 S$="RED?"
414 CALL SEND(ADDRESS%,S$,STATUS%)
420 CALL SPOLL(ADDRESS%,POLL%,STATUS%)
430
440 IF (POLL% AND 16) = 0 THEN 420
450 PRINT "STATUS:";POLL%
460 R$=SPACE$72
470
480 CALL ENTER(R$,LENGTH%,ADDRESS%,STATUS%)
490
500 PRINT R$
510 NEXT N
 
How do I make VEE-code from this?
 
Best regards
Stig Carlsson

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