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MZ DA QFP pcb布局如何保持环路在VDDR1V8和VSS1V8中心焊盘之间短路?

我正在构建一个将使用176个QFP版本的DA.板,并不是非常理想地绕过IMO,有人对这些问题有什么建议吗?理想情况下,我希望所有的帽子都在IC旁边。如果微芯片能为BGA启动器套件提供GER或PDF布局,那也不错。(循环=来自CAPS的高频电源循环,无论您称之为什么)1。是否有任何理由不将VDDR接地直接通过接地电阻与接地平面连接?2。如何保持环路在VDDR1V8和VSS1V8中心焊盘之间短路?3。引脚3-4是AVDD,5-6 AVSS,153-156另一双引脚集,因此绕过每个引脚?4。许多位置是VSS、VDDIO、VDDCART集合,那么,在这里,尝试完成循环回到特定的VSS引脚吗?5。引脚165孤儿VDDIO.Y 6。VDR1V8和VDD1V8的100欧姆电感器背后的原因是什么?7。如何管理1.8V电源,接地平面与引线,因为我希望这将工作在4层,但不想妥协,如果EMC不能工作。是的,这是一个问题墙,但没有太多的参考资料。

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    I am building a board that will use the 176 QFP version of the DA.

Pins aren't layed out very ideally for bypass caps IMO, does anyone have any suggestions on these issues?  Ideally, I'd like all the caps on the same side as the IC.  It would also be nice if microchip would provide gerber or pdf layout for the BGA starter kit.

(loop = high frequency power supply circle from the caps, whatever you call this)

#1.  Is there any reason not to connect VDDR Ground directly to the ground plane vs through a resistor?
#2.  How is one supposed to keep the loop short between the VDDR1V8 and the VSS1V8 center pad?
#3.  Pins 3-4 are AVDD, 5-6 AVSS, 153-156 another dual pin set, so bypass each pin?
#4.  Numerous locations are VSS,VDDIO,VDDCORE sets, so what here, try to finish the loop back to that particular VSS pin?
#5.  Pin 165 orphan VDDIO.
#6.  What is the reasoning behind 100 ohm inductors for vddr1v8 and vdd1v8 on the start kit?
#7.  What about managing 1.8v supplies, ground plane vs leads, as I was hoping this would work on 4 layers, but don't want to compromise if EMC won't work.

Yes, this is a wall of questions, but there isn't much reference material on this.

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刘涛

2019-3-14 18:19:03
目的何在?保持射频输入还是输出?

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    What is the purpose though? To keep rf in or out?
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黄飞高

2019-3-14 18:33:45
我的两个比特,但我会说主要是为了保持射频,防止RF从源扩散,噪音。/ Ruben

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    I bit of both but I would say mainly to keep rf in, prevent rf from spreading from the source, the noisy IC.
 
/Ruben
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刘涛

2019-3-14 18:51:38
这就是我所害怕的。这确实给旁路盖和设计带来了很大的负担,关于电感器在电源上的整个想法有着矛盾的想法。

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    That is what I was afraid of.  That really puts a lot of load on the bypass caps and design, there are conflicting ideas on that whole idea of inductors on the power supply like that.
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刘涛

2019-3-14 19:01:12
芯片/印刷电路板设计师和最终建筑商之间似乎有不可渗透的雾。一些良好的布局应用笔记将为一个新的芯片这样的地方。我也想知道这些东西是否在EMC实验室中测试过。假人不会用3MB的堆叠DDR来构建IC,所以如果一些灵巧的东西能到处泄漏,那就好了。

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    There seems to be some impenetrable fog between the chip/pcb designers and end builders with this stuff.  Some good layout app notes would be in place for a new chip like this. I'd also like to know if any of this stuff gets tested in an EMC lab.
 
Dummies don't build IC's with 32mb of stacked DDR, so if some of the smarts could leak out here and there it would be nice.
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