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具有交叉阴影接地平面的微带迹线阻抗如何设置

所有,我有一个由聚酰亚胺制成的柔性电路(er = 3.3到3.5),我想用ADS2011布局确认单端微带线和差分偶数/奇数模式走线的阻抗。
我已将Gerber文件加载到工具中,我可以设置多个端口。
我的目标是在存在交叉阴影平面(非实心)的情况下提取单端/差分阻抗。
柔性电路在动态环境中使用,并且它不能是实心平面参考,因为它会使其疲劳,并最终随着时间的推移而失效(裂纹迹线等)。
我想调整走线和交叉影线参数以达到90欧姆差分阻抗和50欧姆单端。
我将在两种情况下分解问题 - 差分和单端。
我想为差分设置一个案例,并为偶数和奇数模式提取迹线的阻抗。
我相信这在ADS中是小菜一碟,我只是不知道如何设置它。
我知道我可以转换阻抗Z11 = 50 *(1 + S(1,1))/(1-S(1,1))。
从这里我如何得到奇数和偶数模式?
如何对交叉影线进行参数化,以便我可以改变一些参数并查看阻抗变化?
我真的很感激任何帮助。
我挖了我的旧书,我重新找到偶数= Z11 / 2 odd = 2 * Z11的阻抗。
但是,我只需要知道我需要在跟踪上放置多少个端口。
对于差分情况,我想这是一个双端口测量,但是地面参考怎么样?
我会把以下端口P1,P2分别对一端进行差分对。
P3,P4到另一端,地面怎么样?
它只是P5吗?
然后我将其导出到原理图,并添加地面,因为我无法在布局中添加地面?
任何帮助将不胜感激。
这是我通过实验和FCC测试得到的经典案例,但我没有模拟模型来预测这一点而不需要迭代flex。
谢谢rjrodrig

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  All,

I have a Flex circuit made out of Polyimide (er =3.3 to 3.5), I want to confirm the impedance of single ended microstrip and differential even/odd mode traces using ADS2011 Layout.  I have loaded the Gerber files into the tool, and I can setup multiple ports.  My goal is to extract the single ended/diff impedance in the presence of a cross-hatched plane (not solid).  The flex circuit is used in a dynamic environment, and it cannot be a solid plane reference as it will fatigue it, and eventually fail over time (cracked traces etc).  I want to adjust the traces, and cross-hatch parameters to hit 90 ohms differential impedance, and 50 ohms single ended.

I will split the problem in two cases -- the differential and single ended.  I want to setup a case for the differential, and extract the impedance of the traces for even and odd mode.  I am sure this is a piece of cake in ADS, I just don't know how to set it up.  I know I can convert the impedance Z11 = 50*(1+S(1,1))/(1-S(1,1)).  From here how do I get odd and even mode?  How do I parametrize the cross hatch so I can vary the some parameters and look at the impedance changes?

I would really appreciate it any help.  I have dug up my old books and I recapped the impedance for even=Z11/2 odd=2*Z11.   However, I just need to know how many ports I need to put on my traces. For the differential case, I imagine this is a two port measurement, but what about the ground reference?  I would put the following ports P1,P2 to diff pair one end. P3,P4 to the other end, what about ground? Is it just P5?  Do I then export this to schematic, and add ground since I can't add ground in Layout?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  This is a classical case I have gotten around experimentally and through FCC testing, but I don't have a simulation model to predict this without iterating the flex.

Thanks
rjrodrig  

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王亮

2019-1-8 15:30:30
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2019-1-8 15:46:32
引用: ***5 发表于 2019-1-8 15:57
Agilent EEsof Knowledge Center中有很多文档和示例可用于模拟差模和奇模阻抗。
这是一个:http://edocs.soco.agilent.com/display/eesofkcads/odd+mode+impedance+vs+differential+impedance也许这会很有用:http://edocs.soco.agilent.com/display
/ eesofkcads / A + +方便的方式向+ + +计算特性阻抗+ + Z0 +和+ ZDIF ...

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2019-1-8 15:58:08
引用: ***5 发表于 2019-1-8 15:57
Agilent EEsof Knowledge Center中有很多文档和示例可用于模拟差模和奇模阻抗。
这是一个:http://edocs.soco.agilent.com/display/eesofkcads/odd+mode+impedance+vs+differential+impedance也许这会很有用:http://edocs.soco.agilent.com/display
/ eesofkcads / A + +方便的方式向+ + +计算特性阻抗+ + Z0 +和+ ZDIF ...

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  Is it possible to get a PDF of the document?  I could not get access to the website
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