第二个M.2接口不会出现在BIOS中

我的理解（英特尔客户支持需要验证）是（E型）M.2插槽仅支持安装特定的WiFi模块;
它不作为通用（E型）PCIe插槽支持。
第一个（M型）M.2插槽也是如此，它仅支持安装存储设备（M.2 SATA / PCIe / NVMe SSD或M.2 Optane Memory模块）。
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My understanding (which Intel Customer Support will need to verify) is that the (Type E) M.2 slot is only supported for the installation of specific WiFi modules; it is not supported as a general-purpose (Type E) PCIe slot. The same thing goes for the first (Type M) M.2 slot, which is only supported for the installation of a storage device (M.2 SATA/PCIe/NVMe SSD or M.2 Optane Memory module).
 
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您好JustinGrimm，感谢您在我们的英特尔®社区发布您的查询。基于您的帖子，我们通知您，N。Scott Pearson先生是对的;
M.2 2230（E型）不用于存储，它保留用于外围接口，如无线卡。有关更多信息，请参阅产品规格表的第13页。如果还有其他信息，请告诉我们。
关注.Regards，Diego S.



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Hello JustinGrimm,
 
 Thank you for posting your inquiry in our Intel ® communities.
Based on your post let us inform you that Mr. N. Scott Pearson is right; the M.2 2230 (type E) is not for storage, it is reserved for peripheral interfaces such as wireless cards.
For more information, you can refer to the page 13 of the product specification sheet.
 
Please let us know if there are any other concerns.
 
Regards,
Diego S.
 

你好斯科特和迭戈，谢谢你的帮助。
现在我明白bios没有显示第二个M.2插槽，因为如果存在WiFi模块，它对于bios并不重要。
斯科特说：“它不支持作为通用（E型）PCIe插槽。”
但是技术参考显示2230插槽支持PCIe和USB（第47/48页的表17），就像标准的M.2 E-key 2230接口一样。
（第49页的第2.2.4.2章也说明了这一点）。
什么信息告诉我这不是一个完全支持的端口？
不支持哪些功能或接口？
或者这些共享外设如USB或PCIe？
非常感谢你，
贾斯汀



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Hello Scott and Diego, thank you for your help.
 
Now I understand that the bios doesn't show the second M.2 slot as it is not important for the bios if there is a WiFi module present.
 
Scott says "it is not supported as a general-purpose (Type E) PCIe slot." but the the technical reference it shows that the 2230 slot supports PCIe and USB (Table 17 on page 47/48) like a standard M.2 E-key 2230 interface. (Also chapter 2.2.4.2  on page 49 shows this).
What information tells that this is not a fully supported port? What functions or interfaces are not supported? Or are these shared peripherals like USB or PCIe?
 
Thank you very much,
Justin

实际上，它对BIOS很重要，因为它具有特定于模块存在的参数（例如，考虑前OS时的蓝牙键盘支持）。
我认为这是一个问题，是否值得花时间显示有关套接字本身的任何信息。
关于任何“支持”声明，您需要了解这意味着英特尔仅验证使用WLAN卡的插槽操作。
不支持使用任何其他卡，因此，无法保证，如果发现问题，将及时解决此问题。
同样，我不为英特尔工作，我也不代表英特尔。
迭戈将需要填补你的官方位置......
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Actually, it's important to the BIOS as it has parameters specific to the module's presence (for example, consider Bluetooth keyboard support while pre-OS). I think it becomes an issue of whether it was worth their while to show any information regarding the socket itself.
 
Regarding any "supported" statement, you need to understand that what this means is that Intel only validates the operation of the socket with the WLAN card. Using any other card is not supported and, as a result, there is no guarantee that, if a problem is uncovered, this problem will be addressed and in a timely fashion. Again, I do not work for Intel and I do not speak for Intel. Diego will need to fill you in on the official position...
 
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嗨斯科特，
再次感谢您的快速响应：“例如，在预操作系统时考虑蓝牙键盘支持”，我看，我没有想到这一点。
与此同时，我一直致力于在操作系统启动时使设备工作，它现在识别设备并且我能够使用它。
但是，我关于是否存在共享接口的问题仍然存在。
也许迭戈回答了这个问题。
（当我插入一些额外的USB设备时，我不希望自己的设备停止工作）。
问候，
贾斯汀



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Hi Scott,
 
Again thank you for your fast response: "for example, consider Bluetooth keyboard support while pre-OS", I see, I didn't think about that.
In the meanwhile I have been working on getting the device working when the OS is booted, it does recognize the device now and I am able to use it.
 
However, my question about whether there are shared interfaces remain. Maybe Diego has answer to that question. (I don't want my own device to stop working when I plug in some extra USB device).
 
Greetings,
Justin
 

您好JustinGrimm，感谢您的回复。在这种情况下，Scott P.所说的是正确的。对于M.2 2230模块连接器（Key Type-E），Intel仅支持在页面上指定的无线卡/模块
在技​​术产品规格表的49中，主板支持M.2 2230（Key Type-E）（WLAN）。您可以尝试测试其他类型的M.2卡，但英特尔不能保证它们能够正常工作，不支持配置。
我希望这有帮助.Regards，Diego S.



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Hello JustinGrimm,
Thank you for your response.
In this case, what Scott P. stated is correct.
For the M.2 2230 module connector (Key Type-E), Intel only supports Wireless cards/modules as it is specified on the page 49 of the Technical Product Specification Sheet, the board supports M.2 2230 (Key Type-E)(WLAN).
You can try testing other types of M.2 cards, but Intel cannot guarantee they will work, not support the configuration.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Diego S.
 

您好JustinGrimm，我们只是想仔细检查您是否需要进一步的帮助？请不要犹豫与我们联系。我希望尽快收到您的回复。最诚挚的问候，Diego S.



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Hello JustinGrimm,
We just wanted to double check if you need further assistance?
Please don’t hesitate on contacting us back.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Best Regards,
Diego S.
 

你好迭戈，
我仍然不明白为什么连接器只支持wifi卡，在生成REFCLK并与设备通信之前，bios无法知道连接的内容。
我会更多地解释一下我的情况;
我正在开发一个FPGA声卡，它应该通过PCIe连接与NUC通信，M.2连接器中有PCIe，文档没有清楚地说明为什么只支持wifi卡。
与此同时，我在NUC和我的FPGA平台之间进行通信，该应用程序曾用于标准mPCIe接口而不是M.2 E键接口。
我们发现pcisig组织标准描述的PCIe接口之间存在一些差异。
有来自pcisig的公共文档，称为“PCI-SIG ENGINEERING CHANGE NOTICE”。
其中一个文档描述了mPCIe和M.2 B键之间的一些差异。
（B键卡也有PCIe存在）。
必须将某些信号拉低，以使REFCLK变为可用（例如CLKREQ＃）。
在mPCIe上，这不是必需的，因此我们没有这样做。
我们将适当的信号应用到界面，现在它可以用作声卡。
所以我的问题仍然存在，为什么M.2 E-keyed插槽中的PCIe接口不是标准的PCIe接口，除了pcisig标准所描述的差异？
我仍然想知道这一点，因为我不希望bios或内核更新在将来破坏我的应用程序。
问候，
贾斯汀维斯



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Hello Diego,
 
I still don't understand why the connector would only support wifi cards, there is no way for the bios to know what is connected until it generates a REFCLK and has communication with the device.
 
I will explain my case a bit more; I am developing an FPGA soundcard which should communicate to the NUC over an PCIe connection, the M.2 connector has PCIe in it and the documentation does not clearly shows why only wifi cards would be supported.
In the meanwhile I've got the communication going between the NUC and my FPGA platform, the application used to work with a standard mPCIe interface instead of a M.2 E-keyed interface. We found out that there are some differences between the PCIe interfaces described by the standards of the pcisig organisation.
There are public documents available from pcisig which are called: "PCI-SIG ENGINEERING CHANGE NOTICE". One of these documents describes some of the differences between mPCIe and M.2 B-keyed. (The B-keyed card also has PCIe present). Some signals has to be pulled low for the REFCLK to become available (CLKREQ#) for instance. On mPCIe this was not required and so we didn't do this. We applied the proper signals to the interface and now it works as a sound card.
 
So my question remains, why would the PCIe interface in the M.2 E-keyed slot not be a standard PCIe interface except for the differences described by the pcisig standards?
I still want to know this because I don't want a bios or kernel update to break my application in the future.
 
Greetings,
Justin Vis

您好JustinGrimm，感谢您的回复。请记住，我们共享M.2 2230模块连接器（Key Type-E），Intel仅支持M.2 2230无线卡/模块（Key Type-E）（WLAN
您可以尝试测试其他类型的M.2，但我们不保证其功能。如需进一步的帮助，您可能希望在我们的FPGA英特尔®社区论坛中发布您的问题：
https://forums.intel.com/s/?language=en_US 
我希望这有帮助.Regards，Diego S.



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Hello JustinGrimm,
Thank you for your response.
Please keep in mind that as we shared, M.2 2230 module connector (Key Type-E), Intel only supports M.2 2230 Wireless cards/modules (Key Type-E)(WLAN).
You can try testing other types of M.2, but we do not guarantee the functionality of it.
For further assistance, you might want to post your concern in our FPGA Intel® Community forums:
https://forums.intel.com/s/?language=en_US


I hope this helps.
Regards,
Diego S.